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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @PSX_Defector
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      @PSX_Defector said:

      Why the [heck] would you put GNOME or KDE on a server? If you are so starved for a GUI, use Webmin or any number of tools.

      If you want to be, you know, logical.

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        Martin9700
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        Wth? 😉

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Martin9700
          last edited by

          @Martin9700 said:

          Wth? 😉

          LOL. I think that he is just saying you are a PowerShell master and I am not.

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          • thanksajdotcomT
            thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Martin9700 said:

            Wth? 😉

            LOL. I think that he is just saying you are a PowerShell master and I am not.

            Precisely.

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            • Bill KindleB
              Bill Kindle
              last edited by

              Martin's mad PowerShell skillz never cease to amaze me. I usually seek out his sage posts, then I go to TechNet 🙂

              With that said, there's absolutely no need to install any start menu modifications to Server 2012. None. All management should go through 1) Server Manager 2) RSAT for Windows 8.1 or 3) PowerShell . And not specifically in that order.

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              • computerchipC
                computerchip
                last edited by

                Oh man, I can't stand classicshell. I am a big Iobit start menu 8 fan myself.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  Agreed, stop logging into a server unless absolutely necessary. Use RSAT from a Windows 8(.1) machine.

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                  • IRJI
                    IRJ
                    last edited by

                    Removing the start menu makes anyone a better tech. Whether it forces you to use keyboard shortcuts or powershell, it makes the tech more efficient.

                    Either that or IT may not be for you.

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                    • Bob BeattyB
                      Bob Beatty @IRJ
                      last edited by

                      @IRJ said:

                      Removing the start menu makes anyone a better tech. Whether it forces you to use keyboard shortcuts or powershell, it makes the tech more efficient.

                      Either that or IT may not be for you.

                      I might disagree with this. The evolution of Server management has come full circle. I'm from the OS/2 - DOS Lan Manager days - and... I saw Windows go from command line to GUI at the NT stage. Now it's gone to Powershell. Hang on, GUI will make a return in 5-8 years. But for those of us who have had it both ways, I'm more comfortable with GUI for most things - but find PowerShell scripts useful - especially for Exchange. And I do like my start menu and I use Classic Shell on my Windows 8.

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                      • IRJI
                        IRJ
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                        @bob-beatty I see what you are saying, but the Metro interface isnt going away. Keyboard Shortcuts are much quicker than using the start menu, anyways.

                        I dont think the GUI is coming back. Powershell is just too powerful and has many more options than the GUI will ever have.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          I have to agree. The GUI concept only arose in one isolated OS and only because of its desktop roots. No other enterprise OS has ever had a GUI nor has there ever been a move towards one. Windows was a desktop product that has now abandoned the GUI.

                          I don't see a cycle but a constant move towards CLI.

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                            A Former User
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                            I wish Server Manager was available for Windows 7

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
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                              I would suggest to install 8.1 already, it isn't new anymore. You only need 1 box running it to manage your servers.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @A Former User
                                last edited by

                                @Aaron-Studer said:

                                I wish Server Manager was available for Windows 7

                                They'll never do that. Using tools like that is a commitment to keeping up with Microsoft's ecosystem.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @JaredBusch said:

                                  I would suggest to install 8.1 already, it isn't new anymore. You only need 1 box running it to manage your servers.

                                  Agreed, it is worth it. And 8.1 is fast and stable. It's really a decent OS.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @JaredBusch said:

                                    I would suggest to install 8.1 already, it isn't new anymore. You only need 1 box running it to manage your servers.

                                    Agreed, it is worth it. And 8.1 is fast and stable. It's really a decent OS.

                                    I'm installing the 8.1 update as we speak on 8 desktops at a client 2 states over. They have been running Windows 8 for a year now.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      We've been on 8.1 for a few months almost across the board. It's better than 8, but nearly the same.

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                                      • thanksajdotcomT
                                        thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        We've been on 8.1 for a few months almost across the board. It's better than 8, but nearly the same.

                                        Umm....what??

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          8.1? It is definitely slightly better than 8. Have you seen anything that was a step backwards?

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                                          • thanksajdotcomT
                                            thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            8.1? It is definitely slightly better than 8. Have you seen anything that was a step backwards?

                                            As a literalist, you pretty much said that they are practically identical but not practically identical. Lol

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