Windows Server 2012 Start Menu
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@IRJ said:
@scottalanmiller So some people think they are Linux admins when they are not
We call those people "Windows Admins"
Tee hee
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Why the [heck] would you put GNOME or KDE on a server? If you are so starved for a GUI, use Webmin or any number of tools.
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@aaron-studer if you must have a GUI, ClassicShell is good. However, this sounds like your boss is whining. It's a server. If the end users were fighting it hard and making issues, that's one thing. If it's just you guys working on it, deal with it. Or use a Core install and manage it via Server Manager, etc.
@scottalanmiller, you don't use Powershell. You use Server Manager. You think you're @martin9700??
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@PSX_Defector said:
Why the [heck] would you put GNOME or KDE on a server? If you are so starved for a GUI, use Webmin or any number of tools.
If you want to be, you know, logical.
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Wth?
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@Martin9700 said:
Wth?
LOL. I think that he is just saying you are a PowerShell master and I am not.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Martin9700 said:
Wth?
LOL. I think that he is just saying you are a PowerShell master and I am not.
Precisely.
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Martin's mad PowerShell skillz never cease to amaze me. I usually seek out his sage posts, then I go to TechNet
With that said, there's absolutely no need to install any start menu modifications to Server 2012. None. All management should go through 1) Server Manager 2) RSAT for Windows 8.1 or 3) PowerShell . And not specifically in that order.
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Oh man, I can't stand classicshell. I am a big Iobit start menu 8 fan myself.
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Agreed, stop logging into a server unless absolutely necessary. Use RSAT from a Windows 8(.1) machine.
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Removing the start menu makes anyone a better tech. Whether it forces you to use keyboard shortcuts or powershell, it makes the tech more efficient.
Either that or IT may not be for you.
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@IRJ said:
Removing the start menu makes anyone a better tech. Whether it forces you to use keyboard shortcuts or powershell, it makes the tech more efficient.
Either that or IT may not be for you.
I might disagree with this. The evolution of Server management has come full circle. I'm from the OS/2 - DOS Lan Manager days - and... I saw Windows go from command line to GUI at the NT stage. Now it's gone to Powershell. Hang on, GUI will make a return in 5-8 years. But for those of us who have had it both ways, I'm more comfortable with GUI for most things - but find PowerShell scripts useful - especially for Exchange. And I do like my start menu and I use Classic Shell on my Windows 8.
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@bob-beatty I see what you are saying, but the Metro interface isnt going away. Keyboard Shortcuts are much quicker than using the start menu, anyways.
I dont think the GUI is coming back. Powershell is just too powerful and has many more options than the GUI will ever have.
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I have to agree. The GUI concept only arose in one isolated OS and only because of its desktop roots. No other enterprise OS has ever had a GUI nor has there ever been a move towards one. Windows was a desktop product that has now abandoned the GUI.
I don't see a cycle but a constant move towards CLI.
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I wish Server Manager was available for Windows 7
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I would suggest to install 8.1 already, it isn't new anymore. You only need 1 box running it to manage your servers.
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@Aaron-Studer said:
I wish Server Manager was available for Windows 7
They'll never do that. Using tools like that is a commitment to keeping up with Microsoft's ecosystem.
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@JaredBusch said:
I would suggest to install 8.1 already, it isn't new anymore. You only need 1 box running it to manage your servers.
Agreed, it is worth it. And 8.1 is fast and stable. It's really a decent OS.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
I would suggest to install 8.1 already, it isn't new anymore. You only need 1 box running it to manage your servers.
Agreed, it is worth it. And 8.1 is fast and stable. It's really a decent OS.
I'm installing the 8.1 update as we speak on 8 desktops at a client 2 states over. They have been running Windows 8 for a year now.
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We've been on 8.1 for a few months almost across the board. It's better than 8, but nearly the same.
