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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      The issue is that it isn't a backup system - it is not designed to deal with alien files. The files you are having issues with are UNIX hidden files. Not something that you would expect it to handle on Windows. I don't know what it thinks that they are what they are, but it has to do with a Windows interpretation of a UNIX file.

      A backup system is designed to backup anything and approaches files differently. But a sync system is not. So it tries to approach files pragmatically not from a "protect whatever is there" perspective.

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        Carnival Boy @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        @technobabble said:

        @Dashrender That is how I also read it for the personal side. They were comparing it to Dropbox.

        Not trying to confuse ODfB with backups, however having the most used stuff on a PC automatically sync to cloud storage for an online copy (like a backup) and can be shared with others (like other cloud file sharing programs) is an awesome tool. You can attach ANY PC to your ODfB account and have the data synced to your PC.

        I understand what @scottalanmiller is saying that it is NOT a true backup, but you have to admit its like a backup.

        No, I don't agree with you at all, I don't consider this a backup at all, in fact nothing like one. A backup as Scott says has always been disconnected from the source.

        What you're forgetting is that ODFB is backed up by Microsoft. So it is disconnected from the source. The key questions are:
        Can you recover a previous version of a file?
        Can you recover a deleted file?
        The answer to those questions are yes, therefore you can use it as a backup. Basically, if it looks like a backup and it smells like a backup then it probably is a backup.

        And on the plus side, backups managed by Microsoft should be more reliable than any backup managed by an SMB.

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          technobabble @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller

          Actually .htaccess is a config file for Apache which can be run on Windows and the .jason files are JavaScript Object Notation which can run on any OS.

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            technobabble
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            According to Microsoft...http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/support/music-photos-and-video/back-up-photos-documents-and-more

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @technobabble
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              @technobabble said:

              @scottalanmiller

              Actually .htaccess is a config file for Apache which can be run on Windows and the .jason files are JavaScript Object Notation which can run on any OS.

              Yes, they will be used anywhere, but the preceeding dot is a UNIX filesystem designation and hence the problem.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @technobabble
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                @technobabble said:

                According to Microsoft...http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/support/music-photos-and-video/back-up-photos-documents-and-more

                Two things there: one it is a "backup of", not a backup mechanism. Not quite the same. It is only designed to backup "photos, documents, etc" on Windows. Not application with UNIX filesystem names. It's not a system backup, just a storage device that can hold Windows files. If it said that this was a full backup system and could function as a full system and system state backup to restore complete systems, not just your end user files like they are mentioning here, we'd be very different.

                The other thing is that OneDrive and ODFB are two different products that might behave differently here.

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                  Carnival Boy
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                  So it is a backup, just a limited backup. I'm cool with that.

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                    technobabble @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller got ya...but for files that you need to share from developer to developer, and using a product that shares files...this seems to be a mix-match.

                    Needs a disclaimer: ODfB is good for anyone, except you people who want to share website files.

                    Now this means I might have to look for another program to duplicate what ODfB is to be used for.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch
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                      I would have this kind of data under version control when it comes to developer access. A ODfB copy is fine for a sort of backup/extra copy, but for developers, I would want version control.

                      SVN or Git, something.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @technobabble
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                        @technobabble said:

                        @scottalanmiller got ya...but for files that you need to share from developer to developer, and using a product that shares files...this seems to be a mix-match.

                        Needs a disclaimer: ODfB is good for anyone, except you people who want to share website files.

                        Now this means I might have to look for another program to duplicate what ODfB is to be used for.

                        OwnCloud

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said:

                          I would have this kind of data under version control when it comes to developer access. A ODfB copy is fine for a sort of backup/extra copy, but for developers, I would want version control.

                          SVN or Git, something.

                          Yes I agree. SVN and GIT are the right tools for this.

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                            technobabble
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                            Since ODfB doesn't like the web files, I agree I would have to look for a new way to sync with others the latest download of the running website files.

                            However I am not sure how Git or SVN helps. I will try to find time to Google and see what they are about. I thought it was where code and code snippets are stored versus actual backup of entire website.

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                              technobabble
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                              I have zipped all the files into their folders and am still having the issue. Next step is to move all files out of ODfB and start over.

                              If I delete from folder does that delete from ODfB, or do I have to go to the web platform and delete files/folders there?

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @technobabble
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                                @technobabble both ways should work, but when you are having issues, the web should always be the master.

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                                  technobabble @JaredBusch
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                                  @JaredBusch Thanks. I'll report back when I have fixed the issue.

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                                    Carnival Boy @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch said:

                                    the web should always be the master.

                                    it being the primary storage and all 😉

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @technobabble
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                                      @technobabble said:

                                      Since ODfB doesn't like the web files, I agree I would have to look for a new way to sync with others the latest download of the running website files.

                                      However I am not sure how Git or SVN helps. I will try to find time to Google and see what they are about. I thought it was where code and code snippets are stored versus actual backup of entire website.

                                      That's correct. A website is just code though. Hence why it works so well.

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                                        technobabble
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                                        OK, back to the issue I started with.

                                        I went online and all the files that I have deleted are still there and all the new ones I need to sync have not synced.

                                        I am not getting the error anymore, but looking at the icon in the system tray I see I am trying to sync 9,844 files.

                                        I am going to double check but I believe that the ODfB website should have the latest data. Of course since it does not, so I need to delete all the info on the ODfB website and them maybe it will sync again.

                                        I found that @JaredBusch posted 4 months ago with a snyc issue: http://mangolassi.it/topic/1328/onedrive-shrepoint-sync-problems/3

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @technobabble
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                                          @technobabble said:

                                          I am not getting the error anymore, but looking at the icon in the system tray I see I am trying to sync 9,844 files.

                                          You may be running into the 10k file limit.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            Should be 20K, I think...
                                            http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/office365-sharepoint-online-enterprise-help/sharepoint-online-software-boundaries-and-limits-HA102694293.aspx

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