Sub $600 laptop
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@Francesco-Provino said in Sub $600 laptop:
trackpoint
The more expensive Dell ones aren't bad. But you're right Lenovo's trackpoint was the most useful one.
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What about the Lenovos are so nice? Haven't used one in a long time. Remember the IBM nipples?
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@Francesco-Provino said in Sub $600 laptop:
@scottalanmiller said in Sub $600 laptop:
@Francesco-Provino said in Sub $600 laptop:
I've seen some thinkpad t450 new in box for 600 on ebay. Very solid machines.
But then you are stuck with Lenovo gear. And stuff from eBay. That's a lot of risk in two different ways when good vendors have stuff in the pricerange, too, without needing to go to eBay and taking that risk.
But no one other than Lenovo has a good trackpoint.
No other company steals and spies on you nearly so well as Lenovo does either. I agree with you that they make the best laptops around hardware wise, but that just can't negate the rest of what they do to us, the customer.
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@travisdh1 said in Sub $600 laptop:
@Francesco-Provino said in Sub $600 laptop:
@scottalanmiller said in Sub $600 laptop:
@Francesco-Provino said in Sub $600 laptop:
I've seen some thinkpad t450 new in box for 600 on ebay. Very solid machines.
But then you are stuck with Lenovo gear. And stuff from eBay. That's a lot of risk in two different ways when good vendors have stuff in the pricerange, too, without needing to go to eBay and taking that risk.
But no one other than Lenovo has a good trackpoint.
No other company steals and spies on you nearly so well as Lenovo does either. I agree with you that they make the best laptops around hardware wise, but that just can't negate the rest of what they do to us, the customer.
We have one and it's not good hardware. It's not cheap, not good. Forgetting the spying stuff, it's not up to par with far cheaper vendors in my opinion. The track pad is fine, but nothing good enough that I would ever have thought to mention it. Seems roughly the same as my Asus trackpad. But we had to replace the wifi card to even get it to work, and it has been only moderately reliable. Definitely not the worst hardware, but certainly not good enough to qualify as "good". I'd put it below Mac and Dell in quality.
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@scottalanmiller said in Sub $600 laptop:
@travisdh1 said in Sub $600 laptop:
@Francesco-Provino said in Sub $600 laptop:
@scottalanmiller said in Sub $600 laptop:
@Francesco-Provino said in Sub $600 laptop:
I've seen some thinkpad t450 new in box for 600 on ebay. Very solid machines.
But then you are stuck with Lenovo gear. And stuff from eBay. That's a lot of risk in two different ways when good vendors have stuff in the pricerange, too, without needing to go to eBay and taking that risk.
But no one other than Lenovo has a good trackpoint.
No other company steals and spies on you nearly so well as Lenovo does either. I agree with you that they make the best laptops around hardware wise, but that just can't negate the rest of what they do to us, the customer.
We have one and it's not good hardware. It's not cheap, not good. Forgetting the spying stuff, it's not up to par with far cheaper vendors in my opinion. The track pad is fine, but nothing good enough that I would ever have thought to mention it. Seems roughly the same as my Asus trackpad. But we had to replace the wifi card to even get it to work, and it has been only moderately reliable. Definitely not the worst hardware, but certainly not good enough to qualify as "good". I'd put it below Mac and Dell in quality.
Do you still just have that spindly, silly, Yoga? I spend like 30 seconds with one when I was at a MicroCenter once, felt like I could snap the thing just thinking about moving something in the wrong way. I've still got an X220 (I picked it up used and it was still being shipped to me when the news about Superfish hit), now that thing is a tank compared to any other laptop/notebook I've ever used. Can't count the number of times it's been dropped or fallen off the bedside stand. Still going strong. Yet I still can't bring myself to tell you to try one out, for some odd reason.
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@travisdh1 said in Sub $600 laptop:
@scottalanmiller said in Sub $600 laptop:
@travisdh1 said in Sub $600 laptop:
@Francesco-Provino said in Sub $600 laptop:
@scottalanmiller said in Sub $600 laptop:
@Francesco-Provino said in Sub $600 laptop:
I've seen some thinkpad t450 new in box for 600 on ebay. Very solid machines.
But then you are stuck with Lenovo gear. And stuff from eBay. That's a lot of risk in two different ways when good vendors have stuff in the pricerange, too, without needing to go to eBay and taking that risk.
But no one other than Lenovo has a good trackpoint.
No other company steals and spies on you nearly so well as Lenovo does either. I agree with you that they make the best laptops around hardware wise, but that just can't negate the rest of what they do to us, the customer.
We have one and it's not good hardware. It's not cheap, not good. Forgetting the spying stuff, it's not up to par with far cheaper vendors in my opinion. The track pad is fine, but nothing good enough that I would ever have thought to mention it. Seems roughly the same as my Asus trackpad. But we had to replace the wifi card to even get it to work, and it has been only moderately reliable. Definitely not the worst hardware, but certainly not good enough to qualify as "good". I'd put it below Mac and Dell in quality.
Do you still just have that spindly, silly, Yoga? I spend like 30 seconds with one when I was at a MicroCenter once, felt like I could snap the thing just thinking about moving something in the wrong way. I've still got an X220 (I picked it up used and it was still being shipped to me when the news about Superfish hit), now that thing is a tank compared to any other laptop/notebook I've ever used. Can't count the number of times it's been dropped or fallen off the bedside stand. Still going strong. Yet I still can't bring myself to tell you to try one out, for some odd reason.
Yeah, but we keep getting closer and closer to justifying replacing it.
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Our plan is to get an Asus ZenBook once the finances allow. Much better quality and design.
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Maybe Dell build quality is better than Lenovo, but I can't find a suitable high-end ultrabook... the XPS 13 has that terrible coil whine issue, I've follow the whole story in the Dell official forum. Seems that they aren't capable of fix this issue... it's the second or third generation with coil whine, both 13' and 15' XPS.
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@Francesco-Provino said in Sub $600 laptop:
Maybe Dell build quality is better than Lenovo, but I can't find a suitable high-end ultrabook... the XPS 13 has that terrible coil whine issue, I've follow the whole story in the Dell official forum. Seems that they aren't capable of fix this issue... it's the second or third generation with coil whine, both 13' and 15' XPS.
@Stuka has the XPS 13. Do you get any whine from it?
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@Francesco-Provino said in Sub $600 laptop:
Maybe Dell build quality is better than Lenovo, but I can't find a suitable high-end ultrabook...
Have you checked out the Asus ZenBook 3? I'm really interested in that.
ASUS ZenBook 3 UX390UA
Not under $600. But not crazy.
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@Francesco-Provino said in Sub $600 laptop:
Maybe Dell build quality is better than Lenovo, but I can't find a suitable high-end ultrabook... the XPS 13 has that terrible coil whine issue, I've follow the whole story in the Dell official forum. Seems that they aren't capable of fix this issue... it's the second or third generation with coil whine, both 13' and 15' XPS.
#1: Keep in mind that Lenovo is a never-use company now. Basically anything requiring you keep full control of data will regulate away the use of Lenovo at all.
#2: #1 makes me very sad, because their Thinkpad line is the only custom made notebook chassis anymore. They're more durable, and I love the little eraser mouse. -
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@Francesco-Provino said in Sub $600 laptop:
@scottalanmiller said in Sub $600 laptop:
ASUS ZenBook 3 UX390UA
What about Linux compatibility?
Hard to test without having one here.
My RoG runs Linux. @DustinB3403 has a RoG with Linux as well. -
$600 laptop recipe:
Go on ebay, find yourself a decent Latitude (dell)
Buy yourself a solid state drive, size to taste.
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147372
Install windows on it.
Enjoy a very good quality laptop for cheap that you can actually get parts for and fix yourself easily.
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@travisdh1 said in Sub $600 laptop:
Install windows on it.
Why ruin a perfectly good laptop?
Season the operating system to taste
Windows is a bit salty for some lol
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We're starting to migrate from Lenovo T460 and T560 to Dell Latitude. It seems more durable for 25% less the cost of the Lenovo.
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@NerdyDad said in Sub $600 laptop:
We're starting to migrate from Lenovo T460 and T560 to Dell Latitude. It seems more durable for 25% less the cost of the Lenovo.
Did someone have "The Lenovo" talk with management, or did the price bring them to their senses?
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@travisdh1 said in Sub $600 laptop:
@NerdyDad said in Sub $600 laptop:
We're starting to migrate from Lenovo T460 and T560 to Dell Latitude. It seems more durable for 25% less the cost of the Lenovo.
Did someone have "The Lenovo" talk with management, or did the price bring them to their senses?
We were actually starting to see some weird issues with Excel 2016. We tried uninstalling/reinstalling, turning off updates, making sure it was fully patched, both 32-bit & 64-bit, everything. We ran out of options and decided to try out an entirely new platform and consider Dell anyways.
I tried having the Lenovo security issue talk with them, but we're not under any additional regulations besides a normal business, so there was no outside pressure forcing us to check security. But, if we could get a better laptop for a cheaper value, then we were going to do it. So, to answer your question, it was the price.
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@scottalanmiller said in Sub $600 laptop:
@Francesco-Provino said in Sub $600 laptop:
@scottalanmiller said in Sub $600 laptop:
ASUS ZenBook 3 UX390UA
What about Linux compatibility?
Hard to test without having one here.
My RoG runs Linux. @DustinB3403 has a RoG with Linux as well.My Rog is able to live boot ubuntu 16.10 (I never installed it)
