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    Chosing an Enterprise Linux Server Distro

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    • quicky2gQ
      quicky2g @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @quicky2g said:

      I wish I could agree that RHEL/CentOS is better than Ubuntu. I've used so many flavors and releases and every time I give it an honest try, yum fails me: Takes too long, doesn't resolve dependencies, breaks other packages, etc.

      What kinds of issues? I've yet to have YUM break anything and I've managed thousands of CentOS/RHEL servers. This is very surprising. Is this with third party repos or the RH ones?

      I remember installing 3rd party apps (Can't remember names off the top of my head) and needing dependencies that weren't resolved. Then I'd try to manually install dependencies and yum would fail to install them and/or break another package (Somehow always something system related). Got frustrating enough after multiple times throughout the years that I just stopped using anything with yum.

      To be fair, I've also had issues with apt but had better luck finding resolution.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @quicky2g
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        @quicky2g said:

        I remember installing 3rd party apps (Can't remember names off the top of my head) and needing dependencies that weren't resolved. Then I'd try to manually install dependencies and yum would fail to install them.

        Up to this point, it just means that the software in question wasn't supported on CentOS, doesn't imply a CentOS or YUM issue. If dependencies were not resolved it means that they were not met. That's an issue solely with the third party software.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @quicky2g
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          @quicky2g said:

          ...or break another package (Somehow always something system related). .

          This I have never seen happen.

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            @quicky2g said:

            ...or break another package (Somehow always something system related). .

            This I have never seen happen.

            I've seen it happen in my early days... It can happen if you use say... a Repo specifically for say... Mandrake (Mandriva) while you run CentOS (this is just an example, I can't remember the specific distros this actually happened to me with). Gotta make sure any repos you add in are for your specific OS and version -- and not a newer version, or a different distro altogether.

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Chosing an Enterprise Linux Server Distro:

              extremely stale

              typo

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Chosing an Enterprise Linux Server Distro:

                Suse / OpenSuse is generally considered the best all around server distro outside of the US. Very mature and incredibly broad features and enterprise support. Largest focus on storage and clustering technologies making it unique when looking at building storage systems.

                Why is Suse / OpenSuse considered the best outside of the US specifically?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                  @wirestyle22 said in Chosing an Enterprise Linux Server Distro:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Chosing an Enterprise Linux Server Distro:

                  Suse / OpenSuse is generally considered the best all around server distro outside of the US. Very mature and incredibly broad features and enterprise support. Largest focus on storage and clustering technologies making it unique when looking at building storage systems.

                  Why is Suse / OpenSuse considered the best outside of the US specifically?

                  Because Red Hat is the leader in the US, and Suse is the leader elsewhere.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Chosing an Enterprise Linux Server Distro:

                    @quicky2g said:

                    ...or break another package (Somehow always something system related). .

                    This I have never seen happen.

                    If I had to wager, it would be updating PHP. I have seen people have problems trying to update PHP to something newer than RHEL supports and break stuff. Usually manual install of PHP though.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @dafyre
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                      @dafyre said in Chosing an Enterprise Linux Server Distro:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @quicky2g said:

                      ...or break another package (Somehow always something system related). .

                      This I have never seen happen.

                      I've seen it happen in my early days... It can happen if you use say... a Repo specifically for say... Mandrake (Mandriva) while you run CentOS (this is just an example, I can't remember the specific distros this actually happened to me with). Gotta make sure any repos you add in are for your specific OS and version -- and not a newer version, or a different distro altogether.

                      No, this is not the same thing. You are adding in a third party system that was not setup properly to support RHEL/CentOS.

                      I have never had a non third party system cause a problem.

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said in Chosing an Enterprise Linux Server Distro:

                        @dafyre said in Chosing an Enterprise Linux Server Distro:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @quicky2g said:

                        ...or break another package (Somehow always something system related). .

                        This I have never seen happen.

                        I've seen it happen in my early days... It can happen if you use say... a Repo specifically for say... Mandrake (Mandriva) while you run CentOS (this is just an example, I can't remember the specific distros this actually happened to me with). Gotta make sure any repos you add in are for your specific OS and version -- and not a newer version, or a different distro altogether.

                        No, this is not the same thing. You are adding in a third party system that was not setup properly to support RHEL/CentOS.

                        I have never had a non third party system cause a problem.

                        Let's just say I learned that lesson the hard way, lol.

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                        • Emad RE
                          Emad R
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                          +1 for primary application platform on Ubuntu.

                          If you mean what I think you mean, I use Centos for General server stuff, basically a server that can handle anything or can be more than 1 thing, however for Ubuntu and cause of the snaps, I use Ubuntu for specific roles like :

                          File server
                          Or
                          RockChat server

                          For specific purpose roles.

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