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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      I'm assuming that calling it SQL you mean MS SQL Server? SQL itself can refer to a lot of things and none properly except the language family.

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      • sreekumarpgS
        sreekumarpg @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said in SQL Multi Site Failover High Availability Suggestions:

        SQL itself can refer to a lot of things a

        Sorry, I mean MS SQL Server 2014

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @sreekumarpg
          last edited by JaredBusch

          @sreekumarpg said in SQL Multi Site Failover High Availability Suggestions:

          @scottalanmiller said in SQL Multi Site Failover High Availability Suggestions:

          SQL itself can refer to a lot of things a

          Sorry, I mean MS SQL Server 2014

          Does Replication or Mirroring not work? Those are already there and available for use.

          Not sure how they apply to a cluster, but for a single server they work fine.

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce
            last edited by

            I don't know your existing infrastructure, budget, requirements, etc...

            But here are two solutions that are designed to work with MS SQL, though, they require Windows Server 2016 Datacenter.

            Storage Spaces Direct (S2D): https://sqlperformance.com/2015/11/io-subsystem/storage-spaces-direct-for-sql-server

            Storage Replica: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server-docs/storage/storage-replica/storage-replica-overview

            Of course, there's always WSFC with SQL: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/sql-server/failover-clusters/windows/windows-server-failover-clustering-wsfc-with-sql-server

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            • M
              magroover
              last edited by

              Have you looked at BigCouch? Just asking given your requirements.

              I have not used Azure SQL but from why I read I would think this would suit.

              What is the application? Internal business app or scale out service?

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @Obsolesce
                last edited by

                @Tim_G said in SQL Multi Site Failover High Availability Suggestions:

                I don't know your existing infrastructure, budget, requirements, etc...

                But here are two solutions that are designed to work with MS SQL, though, they require Windows Server 2016 Datacenter.

                Storage Spaces Direct (S2D): https://sqlperformance.com/2015/11/io-subsystem/storage-spaces-direct-for-sql-server

                Storage Replica: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server-docs/storage/storage-replica/storage-replica-overview

                Of course, there's always WSFC with SQL: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/sql-server/failover-clusters/windows/windows-server-failover-clustering-wsfc-with-sql-server

                Why are you taking it out of the application layer?

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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce @sreekumarpg
                  last edited by Obsolesce

                  @JaredBusch said in SQL Multi Site Failover High Availability Suggestions:

                  @Tim_G said in SQL Multi Site Failover High Availability Suggestions:

                  I don't know your existing infrastructure, budget, requirements, etc...

                  But here are two solutions that are designed to work with MS SQL, though, they require Windows Server 2016 Datacenter.

                  Storage Spaces Direct (S2D): https://sqlperformance.com/2015/11/io-subsystem/storage-spaces-direct-for-sql-server

                  Storage Replica: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server-docs/storage/storage-replica/storage-replica-overview

                  Of course, there's always WSFC with SQL: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/sql-server/failover-clusters/windows/windows-server-failover-clustering-wsfc-with-sql-server

                  Why are you taking it out of the application layer?

                  He specifically asked for something outside of MS SQL:

                  @sreekumarpg said in SQL Multi Site Failover High Availability Suggestions:

                  Any third party application is there to achieve this?

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @Obsolesce
                    last edited by

                    @Tim_G said in SQL Multi Site Failover High Availability Suggestions:

                    @JaredBusch said in SQL Multi Site Failover High Availability Suggestions:

                    @Tim_G said in SQL Multi Site Failover High Availability Suggestions:

                    I don't know your existing infrastructure, budget, requirements, etc...

                    But here are two solutions that are designed to work with MS SQL, though, they require Windows Server 2016 Datacenter.

                    Storage Spaces Direct (S2D): https://sqlperformance.com/2015/11/io-subsystem/storage-spaces-direct-for-sql-server

                    Storage Replica: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server-docs/storage/storage-replica/storage-replica-overview

                    Of course, there's always WSFC with SQL: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/sql-server/failover-clusters/windows/windows-server-failover-clustering-wsfc-with-sql-server

                    Why are you taking it out of the application layer?

                    He specifically asked for something outside of MS SQL:

                    @sreekumarpg said in SQL Multi Site Failover High Availability Suggestions:

                    Any third party application is there to achieve this?

                    Missed that.

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                    • Oles BorysO
                      Oles Borys
                      last edited by

                      StarWind Virtual SAN is something that would allow achieving your goal. We can synchronously replicate the storage across 2 sites thus provide you with the ability to build geo-cluster. Then instead of upgrading your SQL to the enterprise edition, you could simply go with the FCI approach that is available in the standard edition.

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                      • sreekumarpgS
                        sreekumarpg
                        last edited by

                        Thanks All for the valid comments.

                        Management is looking for a low cost solution , Currently we are having a two Physical Windows Server 2012 R2 standard Cluster with Microsoft SQL 2014 standard edition. Storage is Dell compellent. This setup is done in Datacenter A and In datacenter B we are having two Physical Windows Server 2012 R2 standard Cluster with Microsoft SQL 2014 standard edition and storage is Dell equallogic.

                        Now the application is configured to send data to both SQL cluster and in outage or maintenance we are reconnecting all services to Datacenter B.

                        Requirement is to reduce the manual process and only doing a DNS change or Load balance change should move service from Datacenter A to Datacenter B and SQL data should be the same. SQL alwayson seems to be the exact solution but not in budget.

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @sreekumarpg
                          last edited by travisdh1

                          @sreekumarpg said in SQL Multi Site Failover High Availability Suggestions:

                          Thanks All for the valid comments.

                          Management is looking for a low cost solution , Currently we are having a two Physical Windows Server 2012 R2 standard Cluster with Microsoft SQL 2014 standard edition. Storage is Dell compellent. This setup is done in Datacenter A and In datacenter B we are having two Physical Windows Server 2012 R2 standard Cluster with Microsoft SQL 2014 standard edition and storage is Dell equallogic.

                          Now the application is configured to send data to both SQL cluster and in outage or maintenance we are reconnecting all services to Datacenter B.

                          Requirement is to reduce the manual process and only doing a DNS change or Load balance change should move service from Datacenter A to Datacenter B and SQL data should be the same. SQL alwayson seems to be the exact solution but not in budget.

                          So why are you even worrying about this any more. Management said it's to expensive, so you or your boss should tell them to stand by that decision.

                          Edit: Easier said than done I know, but the decision is out of your hands.

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