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    3D PDF - Anyone Heard of This?

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    • Bill KindleB
      Bill Kindle
      last edited by scottalanmiller

      So my current employer is getting into the 3D PDF business, and I have to say this is probably the coolest thing I have seen Adobe Acrobat Reader be able to do with 3D CAD data. What this technology does is that it allows non-engineers to be able to consume engineering data in a easy format. Anyone else out there seen this type of technology before?

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        A Former User
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        I have not, but it sounds very cool. Is it available now?

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        • bytesnakeB
          bytesnake
          last edited by

          I heard about it some years ago but never dived into it ...

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Bill Kindle
            last edited by

            @Bill-Kindle said:

            So my current employer is getting into the 3D PDF business, and I have to say this is probably the coolest thing I have seen Adobe Acrobat Reader be able to do with 3D CAD data. What this technology does is that it allows non-engineers to be able to consume engineering data in a easy format. Anyone else out there seen this type of technology before?

            Have not seen that. What a great idea, though.

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            • Bill KindleB
              Bill Kindle
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              It is pretty cool, and the neat thing is that you don't need to have the CAD application on your PC to view the file, just the latest and greatest Adobe Reader. I sent a inquiry off to FoxIT Software to ask if they are incorporating this tech in their future reader and got a response that they were looking into it but it's not going to be available anytime soon. So, for now, Adobe's going to be the dominate force for reading these documents.

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              • DenisKelleyD
                DenisKelley
                last edited by DenisKelley

                Bluebeam will work with CAD as well. http://www.bluebeam.com/us/products/revu/cad.asp
                We have been buying the CAD edition to eliminate using Acrobat Standard. If you just want to read the drawings and maybe print them, you can use the free Autodesk DWG TrueView app.

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                • Bill KindleB
                  Bill Kindle @DenisKelley
                  last edited by

                  @DenisKelley said:

                  Bluebeam will work with CAD as well. http://www.bluebeam.com/us/products/revu/cad.asp
                  We have been buying the CAD edition to eliminate using Acrobat Standard. If you just want to read the drawings and maybe print them, you can use the free Autodesk DWG TrueView app.

                  I don't believe those apps are quite the same thing. I'm talking the high-end CAD software realm, like CATIA and Siemens Unigraphics / Team Center.

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                  • DenisKelleyD
                    DenisKelley @Bill Kindle
                    last edited by

                    @Bill-Kindle said:

                    @DenisKelley said:

                    Bluebeam will work with CAD as well. http://www.bluebeam.com/us/products/revu/cad.asp
                    We have been buying the CAD edition to eliminate using Acrobat Standard. If you just want to read the drawings and maybe print them, you can use the free Autodesk DWG TrueView app.

                    I don't believe those apps are quite the same thing. I'm talking the high-end CAD software realm, like CATIA and Siemens Unigraphics / Team Center.

                    I thought you were talking about viewers for people who don't already use 3D CAD software. Yeah, we already have that with AutoCAD Civil3D and there are others. Sorry if I misunderstood you.

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                    • Bill KindleB
                      Bill Kindle
                      last edited by

                      When I get some screenshots I'll try and post them here. We have some marketing material coming soon that talks about it.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        Cool. Definitely interested.

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                        • thanksajdotcomT
                          thanksajdotcom
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                          I'd love to see it.

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                          • Bill KindleB
                            Bill Kindle
                            last edited by

                            Here's a rough sample of Adobe. This does not contain any other nice features ATM, those are in the marketing material I'm told.
                            2014-03-11 16_45_34-Bishop.pdf - Adobe Reader.png

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                            • thanksajdotcomT
                              thanksajdotcom
                              last edited by

                              @bill-kindle Ok, too freaking cool!

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                              • Bill KindleB
                                Bill Kindle
                                last edited by

                                That's not even the half of it. I can pull in data and put that data into a custom template, giving you much more than shown here. But yeah, you can rotate that in 3D space, just like you would in a normal CAD app.

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                                • RoguePacketR
                                  RoguePacket @Bill Kindle
                                  last edited by

                                  @Bill-Kindle Heard about it. PDF spec has many cool features....which can also be used for malevolence as PDF virus trend has shown.

                                  Good to see the 3D bits actually implemented.

                                  Also—

                                  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format#Standardized_subsets_of_PDF
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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    I agree with Rogue, I really don't like seeing the PDF format adding all of this functionality. I wish it would be a different file format and keep PDF back to their original purpose, cross platform identical printing/viewing. all these bonus features just add more avenues for hackers - Adobe has shown they can't make anywhere near clean code, flash anyone?

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                                    • Bill KindleB
                                      Bill Kindle @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender I understand your concern. But the way I understand the technology right now is that all its allowing you do do is see geometry in 3D space. You can't actually do a whole lot of anything with it other than get representations and other CAD related info. Not quite the same thing as a static picture embedded into a PDF.

                                      Right now I think a lot of the auto industry and their suppliers are going to be the primary benefactors of this tech.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
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                                        @bill-kindle all it's allowing you to do, is allow virus writers to incorporate java-script and other programs that can take over your computer.

                                        I understand that Adobe is trying to be the single interface for anything you might view on your computer, but the risk is really just to great.

                                        If you're a company that needs to view 3D images and see geometry, you most likely already have free viewers for the products that produce the image files in the first place.

                                        Ultimately it's not that I don't want a single product that does it all, that would be great - But Reader has more security holes than Carter has little liver pills. it's as bad or worse than Java.

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                                        • Bill KindleB
                                          Bill Kindle @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender Not with the level of detail that the product I'm testing allows for. Adobe however was not the company that developed this tech, they bought the company that did develop it.

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                                          • Bill KindleB
                                            Bill Kindle
                                            last edited by

                                            More technical info here for anyone interested in this technology:
                                            http://www.tetra4d.com/

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