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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

      @JaredBusch said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

      @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

      @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

      @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

      @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

      @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

      @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

      @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

      So update on this:

      ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

      Don't you mean 2/5?

      and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

      Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

      The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

      Am I looking at the wrong one?

      That would be a great one for what you need to do with it.

      For almost twice the price, like @Dashrender said, is it worth the double memory for a home network? Even if my combined internet speed is 200Mb/sec, is it worth the extra upfront money?

      Ah, at only 200Mb/sec, you should only NEED 400mb/s, so the ER-X and it's 500mb/s (bits, not bytes unless I've missed a huge trend in what ISPs are quoting), so yeah, stick with the ER-X.

      Also, more than slightly off topic. I was always trained that a capital letter denoted bytes while a lowercase letter denoted bits. So networking was always 100mb/s and file sizes were always 100MB.

      See, I always saw it was based on whether the "b" was capital or not. MB = megabyte and Mb = megabit. But I also see mbps and Mbps used in networking, so I'm not sure what the "official" standard is.

      It does actually matter technically, but no one uses the standards in a standard fashion.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units

      I actually posted about Curtis getting this wrong just this morning as it told someone bad info in a VOIP thread again.

      Well the K/k is the only one that does have a standard for upper and lower. The rest are always upper.
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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Yeah, that's weird. I wonder why that is that kb, KB, Kb and kB are okay but only Mb and MB.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

          I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".

          In my experience, people tend to do what @thanksajdotcom said. They capitalize based on the Byte/bit capitalization.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            The k never means what Curtis said, though. He told someone it was kb/s not Kb/s meaning bits vs. bytes.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

              @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

              I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".

              In my experience, people tend to do what @thanksajdotcom said. They capitalize based on the Byte/bit capitalization.

              Yes, over the 30 years I've known about the notation, I've never seen it used any other way until the last few months. It's been an established standard for SO long.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                The k never means what Curtis said, though. He told someone it was kb/s not Kb/s meaning bits vs. bytes.

                Yeah, but Curtis...

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by JaredBusch

                  @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                  @JaredBusch said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                  I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".

                  In my experience, people tend to do what @thanksajdotcom said. They capitalize based on the Byte/bit capitalization.

                  Yes, over the 30 years I've known about the notation, I've never seen it used any other way until the last few months. It's been an established standard for SO long.

                  These settings were not standardized officially by IEEE until 2002. See the wiki link above. Or this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1541-2002

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                    @JaredBusch said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                    I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".

                    In my experience, people tend to do what @thanksajdotcom said. They capitalize based on the Byte/bit capitalization.

                    Yes, over the 30 years I've known about the notation, I've never seen it used any other way until the last few months. It's been an established standard for SO long.

                    These settings were not standardized officially by IEEE until 2002. See the wiki link above.

                    Sure, but they were IT standards long before that. IEEE is just a private organization that decided to take that existing standard and publish it themselves.

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                    • thanksajdotcomT
                      thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                      I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".

                      I've seen it longer than that but never consistently. It seems to fade in and out of popularity, especially when it comes to commercials for ISPs. And I hear revert instead of reply all the time, but that's because my support team is in India.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                        @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                        I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".

                        I've seen it longer than that but never consistently. It seems to fade in and out of popularity, especially when it comes to commercials for ISPs. And I hear revert instead of reply all the time, but that's because my support team is in India.

                        YOu mean they try some fake English then.... revert to the real meaning again? 😉

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                        • thanksajdotcomT
                          thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                          @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                          I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".

                          I've seen it longer than that but never consistently. It seems to fade in and out of popularity, especially when it comes to commercials for ISPs. And I hear revert instead of reply all the time, but that's because my support team is in India.

                          YOu mean they try some fake English then.... revert to the real meaning again? 😉

                          They are just doing the needful 😉 at least when they actually do something and not just ignore all our emails

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
                            last edited by

                            @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                            @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                            I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".

                            I've seen it longer than that but never consistently. It seems to fade in and out of popularity, especially when it comes to commercials for ISPs. And I hear revert instead of reply all the time, but that's because my support team is in India.

                            YOu mean they try some fake English then.... revert to the real meaning again? 😉

                            They are just doing the needful 😉

                            At least that is just an odd word, not a misuse of a real very specific one.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Doing the needful is an uncommon turn of phrase, but totally appropriate.

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1
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                                Thanks for the correction guys.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                                  last edited by

                                  @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                  Thanks for the correction guys.

                                  Keeping you on your toes.

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                                  • thanksajdotcomT
                                    thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                    Doing the needful is an uncommon turn of phrase, but totally appropriate.

                                    0_1491238132338_Screenshot from 2017-04-03 18-48-23.png

                                    It's not commonly spoken anywhere outside of India that I've ever heard. At a former job, they gave all the customer-facing reps "American" names to use, and when I'd see: "Mrs. Jones, we've resolved this on our end. Please do the needful. -Mike" I would just facepalm, because, no. It was a dead giveaway but even after telling the staff that, it was not changed. Oh well, the company was dishonest anyways.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      The point was, misusing revert is wrong, using the needful is just regional. Unrelated items. And I've found the UK to use revert and defend it more than any other region.

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                                      • thanksajdotcomT
                                        thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                        The point was, misusing revert is wrong, using the needful is just regional. Unrelated items. And I've found the UK to use revert and defend it more than any other region.

                                        Yeah but the Brits are weird. Lol

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @thanksajdotcom
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                                          @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                          The point was, misusing revert is wrong, using the needful is just regional. Unrelated items. And I've found the UK to use revert and defend it more than any other region.

                                          Yeah but the Brits are weird. Lol

                                          I know - they like to get pissed and suck on fags...

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                                          • thanksajdotcomT
                                            thanksajdotcom @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                            @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                            The point was, misusing revert is wrong, using the needful is just regional. Unrelated items. And I've found the UK to use revert and defend it more than any other region.

                                            Yeah but the Brits are weird. Lol

                                            I know - they like to get pissed and suck on fags...

                                            Accurate lol
                                            Trying to quit my habit of taking drags on fags. Hard habit to break...

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