Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal
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I like doing it from the CLI, even though phpMyAdmin is slick, because I only need one interface. Having to switch back and forth between SSH and web or something else is cumbersome and more things that I have to maintain. I've had databases where I need to do regular maintenance and then, definitely, that's the tool that I use. But for just initial setup tasks, I stick to the command line.
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@scottalanmiller said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
I like doing it from the CLI, even though phpMyAdmin is slick, because I only need one interface. Having to switch back and forth between SSH and web or something else is cumbersome and more things that I have to maintain. I've had databases where I need to do regular maintenance and then, definitely, that's the tool that I use. But for just initial setup tasks, I stick to the command line.
Yeah, that's another point I didn't think about: it's never just initial setups that occur on a webserver. At least ones I deal with. Sure it can be fast to type in the commands fast to create a new database and user for it... but then when you have to export and import tables and such from other servers, among other things, I'd need to take a class on how to do it. And I can't stand around and school everyone or expect everyone I make contact with to pick up my documentation and do it all via CLI.
Most people just want an easy web browser bookmark, where they can visually go in an get things done without worrying about typing it all out on CLI and everything that involves.
I'm all about automation, scripting, etc... but only when it involves doing things more than once on the same or like systems.
There's a saying I like that goes something like... "If you have to do it twice, it should have been automated." lol
But anyways, I agree with you... initial set up, easy CLI... more involved work/maintenance = GUI (unless you're a trained SQL CLI admin or whatever) But even still, it's not always you who are going to be maintaining it after initial setup... it may not even be a technical fellow.
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@Tim_G yeah, that's very different. For WordPress, normally you never touch the DB again, ever.
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Updated the instrucitons a bit to make the MySQL setup non interactive and fixed a missing bit of info for the httpd.conf.
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Thanks to @BRRABill it looks like I missed some SELinux issues.
Instructions updated, but this is what I needed to resolve his issues so far. He just installed, so maybe more updates to come
yum install -y policycoreutils-python semanage fcontext -a -t httpd_sys_content_t '/opt/yourdomain(/.*)?' restorecon -R /opt/yourdomain semanage fcontext -a -t httpd_sys_rw_content_t '/opt/yourdomain/wp-content(/.*)?' restorecon -R /opt/yourdomain/wp-content -
One other thing @JaredBusch and I discussed was the location in /opt and opposed to /var
In theory, it should not matter.
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BTW, thanks for the writeup. Very good job.
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@BRRABill said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
One other thing @JaredBusch and I discussed was the location in /opt and opposed to /var
In theory, it should not matter.
@scottalanmiller there was a discussion in a thread here a couple years ago around using
/opt/for wordpress installs. but I cannot find it. I think there was a reasoning from someone in there for that location. -
@JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
@BRRABill said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
One other thing @JaredBusch and I discussed was the location in /opt and opposed to /var
In theory, it should not matter.
@scottalanmiller there was a discussion in a thread here a couple years ago around using
/opt/for wordpress installs. but I cannot find it. I think there was a reasoning from someone in there for that location.Only thing I know of is that YUM using that location. But have no idea why.
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Looking into things I found this link. Granted this is about packaging for RPM but still.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Web_ApplicationsWeb Applications
Web applications packaged in Fedora should put their content into /usr/share/%{name} and NOT into /var/www/. This is done because:
- /var is supposed to contain variable data files and logs. /usr/share is much more appropriate for this.
- Many users already have content in /var/www, and we do not want any Fedora package to step on top of that.
- /var/www is no longer specified by the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard
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@JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
Looking into things I found this link. Granted this is about packaging for RPM but still.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Web_ApplicationsWeb Applications
Web applications packaged in Fedora should put their content into /usr/share/%{name} and NOT into /var/www/. This is done because:
- /var is supposed to contain variable data files and logs. /usr/share is much more appropriate for this.
- Many users already have content in /var/www, and we do not want any Fedora package to step on top of that.
- /var/www is no longer specified by the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard
Hmmm... point two I understand. It's already in use. But it was always in /var specifically because it is variable data, that's where upload caches and stuff go.
No idea about the hierarchy.
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@scottalanmiller said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
@JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
Looking into things I found this link. Granted this is about packaging for RPM but still.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Web_ApplicationsWeb Applications
Web applications packaged in Fedora should put their content into /usr/share/%{name} and NOT into /var/www/. This is done because:
- /var is supposed to contain variable data files and logs. /usr/share is much more appropriate for this.
- Many users already have content in /var/www, and we do not want any Fedora package to step on top of that.
- /var/www is no longer specified by the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard
Hmmm... point two I understand. It's already in use. But it was always in /var specifically because it is variable data, that's where upload caches and stuff go.
No idea about the hierarchy.
Looks like I got the /opt thing from you. Your LEMP challenge used /opt/wordpress.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/1082/the-wordpress-on-centos-lemp-challengeNow I know there was a subsequent discussion somewhere on ML about /opt, I just cannot find it.
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@JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
@scottalanmiller said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
@JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
Looking into things I found this link. Granted this is about packaging for RPM but still.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Web_ApplicationsWeb Applications
Web applications packaged in Fedora should put their content into /usr/share/%{name} and NOT into /var/www/. This is done because:
- /var is supposed to contain variable data files and logs. /usr/share is much more appropriate for this.
- Many users already have content in /var/www, and we do not want any Fedora package to step on top of that.
- /var/www is no longer specified by the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard
Hmmm... point two I understand. It's already in use. But it was always in /var specifically because it is variable data, that's where upload caches and stuff go.
No idea about the hierarchy.
Looks like I got the /opt thing from you. Your LEMP challenge used /opt/wordpress.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/1082/the-wordpress-on-centos-lemp-challengeNow I know there was a subsequent discussion somewhere on ML about /opt, I just cannot find it.
I have a feeling that it was or is the nginx default directory.
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@JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
@scottalanmiller said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
@JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
Looking into things I found this link. Granted this is about packaging for RPM but still.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Web_ApplicationsWeb Applications
Web applications packaged in Fedora should put their content into /usr/share/%{name} and NOT into /var/www/. This is done because:
- /var is supposed to contain variable data files and logs. /usr/share is much more appropriate for this.
- Many users already have content in /var/www, and we do not want any Fedora package to step on top of that.
- /var/www is no longer specified by the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard
Hmmm... point two I understand. It's already in use. But it was always in /var specifically because it is variable data, that's where upload caches and stuff go.
No idea about the hierarchy.
Looks like I got the /opt thing from you. Your LEMP challenge used /opt/wordpress.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/1082/the-wordpress-on-centos-lemp-challengeNow I know there was a subsequent discussion somewhere on ML about /opt, I just cannot find it.
I ask about it after seing your guide and you choosing /opt for the instalation
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@Romo said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
@JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
@scottalanmiller said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
@JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
Looking into things I found this link. Granted this is about packaging for RPM but still.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Web_ApplicationsWeb Applications
Web applications packaged in Fedora should put their content into /usr/share/%{name} and NOT into /var/www/. This is done because:
- /var is supposed to contain variable data files and logs. /usr/share is much more appropriate for this.
- Many users already have content in /var/www, and we do not want any Fedora package to step on top of that.
- /var/www is no longer specified by the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard
Hmmm... point two I understand. It's already in use. But it was always in /var specifically because it is variable data, that's where upload caches and stuff go.
No idea about the hierarchy.
Looks like I got the /opt thing from you. Your LEMP challenge used /opt/wordpress.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/1082/the-wordpress-on-centos-lemp-challengeNow I know there was a subsequent discussion somewhere on ML about /opt, I just cannot find it.
I ask about it after seing your guide and you choosing /opt for the instalation
And as you can see from my link above, @scottalanmiller's answer in your thread is not helpful. He simply stated standards. But what standard is the question.
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@scottalanmiller said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
@JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
@scottalanmiller said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
@JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
Looking into things I found this link. Granted this is about packaging for RPM but still.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Web_ApplicationsWeb Applications
Web applications packaged in Fedora should put their content into /usr/share/%{name} and NOT into /var/www/. This is done because:
- /var is supposed to contain variable data files and logs. /usr/share is much more appropriate for this.
- Many users already have content in /var/www, and we do not want any Fedora package to step on top of that.
- /var/www is no longer specified by the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard
Hmmm... point two I understand. It's already in use. But it was always in /var specifically because it is variable data, that's where upload caches and stuff go.
No idea about the hierarchy.
Looks like I got the /opt thing from you. Your LEMP challenge used /opt/wordpress.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/1082/the-wordpress-on-centos-lemp-challengeNow I know there was a subsequent discussion somewhere on ML about /opt, I just cannot find it.
I have a feeling that it was or is the nginx default directory.
No, you continually reference /opt as the directory to use for 3rd party applications.
It I guess the better question is whether or not web apps like this are considered third party applications or something to put in webroot. A Google site search of this site and the term /opt returns many threads with directions from you installing things to /opt.
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He also has said that /var is the only place data should be stored.
Hmmmmm.........
Come on @scottalanmiller let's get it figured out!
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Perhaps this is offtopic, but what is the swappiness setting you are supposed to use? Would that be applicable to this article, or is that a more "general CentOS setup" setting?
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@BRRABill said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
Perhaps this is offtopic, but what is the swappiness setting you are supposed to use? Would that be applicable to this article, or is that a more "general CentOS setup" setting?
Neither. It is not related to WordPress, web hosting or to CentOS directly. It's a memory setting that would be dependent on many factors, like the IOPS you have, the storage and memory that you have, how you want your disk used, how the disks are shared with other systems, how much disk capacity you have spare and so forth.
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@scottalanmiller said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
@BRRABill said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:
Perhaps this is offtopic, but what is the swappiness setting you are supposed to use? Would that be applicable to this article, or is that a more "general CentOS setup" setting?
Neither. It is not related to WordPress, web hosting or to CentOS directly. It's a memory setting that would be dependent on many factors, like the IOPS you have, the storage and memory that you have, how you want your disk used, how the disks are shared with other systems, how much disk capacity you have spare and so forth.
Isn't it one of the settings you normally always enable?
Or am I thinking about something else?
