New Server for the office
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@bigbear said in New Server for the office:
I will definitely keep you in mind as I deal with a lot of IT people. What is the best application for a scale cluster?
It's a general purpose hyperconvergence cluster. So its standard application is as your "entire infrastructure", not including your switches and routers of course. It's a lot like having your own cloud in house, you can just "spin up" whatever VMs you need from a web gui. All of your storage and high availability is baked in so you get a single, very easy to manage system like using something like Digital Ocean, but on premises or in your own colo and with your control of the capacity.
We have a six node @Scale HC3 hosted by @colocationamerica it's a sweet setup.
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@bigbear said in New Server for the office:
@travisdh1 Discovering vultr.com has really blown everything else away for me.
They are great. We used to use a lot of providers but have scaled back to only Vultr and Linode now. No one else competes with them for our needs.
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@scottalanmiller What do you use?
@scottalanmiller said in New Server for the office:
@bigbear said in New Server for the office:
@scottalanmiller NIS?
LOL, no.
What do you use on Linux?
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@coliver said in New Server for the office:
I would say check out SuperMicro and xByte. They have loads of options available and the support to go along with it.
Same here. If I am buying servers these days, I pretty much only look at @ryan-from-xbyte xByte for Dell equipment or SuperMicro in markets where getting Dell is difficult (Canada!!) or when we need form factors that Dell does not provide. These are our two go to vendors.
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@coliver said in New Server for the office:
@DustinB3403 said in New Server for the office:
With any solution you're going to want to virtualize. So be it Hyper-V, XenServer, ESXi or KVM. Installing anything besides a hypervisor to bare metal really needs a very specific reason. Which I don't think you have.
You may be able to get something from @scale within that price range, but I honestly don't know.
I thought their base price was $23K. May be wrong though.
Yes, $25K for the entry level three node HC1100.
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@bigbear said in New Server for the office:
Budget is anywhere under $10k. Could also just go with a NAS if I try Azure AD out, just really can't decide who I want to use for hardware.
Azure AD is a pain to integrate with a NAS. But some NAS like Synology and ioSafe will do full AD right from the NAS (since it is Linux under the hood.) The only NAS vendors that I'd really contemplate are Synology and ReadyNAS for traditional vendors, ioSafe as they do Synology with fire and water proofing added and, of course, SAM-SD devices since you get more power and unlimited flexibility.
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@scottalanmiller said in New Server for the office:
@bigbear said in New Server for the office:
Budget is anywhere under $10k. Could also just go with a NAS if I try Azure AD out, just really can't decide who I want to use for hardware.
Azure AD is a pain to integrate with a NAS. But some NAS like Synology and ioSafe will do full AD right from the NAS (since it is Linux under the hood.) The only NAS vendors that I'd really contemplate are Synology and ReadyNAS for traditional vendors, ioSafe as they do Synology with fire and water proofing added and, of course, SAM-SD devices since you get more power and unlimited flexibility.
ioSafe looks interesting. Whats a 5TB model and cost look like? Or something in that range?
I am also familiar with Synology but I cant remember how. Reminds me of QNAP.
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@bigbear said in New Server for the office:
I am also familiar with Synology but I cant remember how. Reminds me of QNAP.
Think of it as a business class QNAP.
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ioSafe are so cool. There are loads of videos of people abusing them. Very cool stuff.
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@scottalanmiller said in New Server for the office:
@coliver said in New Server for the office:
I would say check out SuperMicro and xByte. They have loads of options available and the support to go along with it.
Same here. If I am buying servers these days, I pretty much only look at @ryan-from-xbyte xByte for Dell equipment or SuperMicro in markets where getting Dell is difficult (Canada!!) or when we need form factors that Dell does not provide. These are our two go to vendors.
Hmm, why xByte instead of going through a Dell rep? Pros / Cons?
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@Tim_G said in New Server for the office:
@scottalanmiller said in New Server for the office:
@coliver said in New Server for the office:
I would say check out SuperMicro and xByte. They have loads of options available and the support to go along with it.
Same here. If I am buying servers these days, I pretty much only look at @ryan-from-xbyte xByte for Dell equipment or SuperMicro in markets where getting Dell is difficult (Canada!!) or when we need form factors that Dell does not provide. These are our two go to vendors.
Hmm, why xByte instead of going through a Dell rep? Pros / Cons?
Refurbished servers with support at a much better price.
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@coliver said in New Server for the office:
@Tim_G said in New Server for the office:
@scottalanmiller said in New Server for the office:
@coliver said in New Server for the office:
I would say check out SuperMicro and xByte. They have loads of options available and the support to go along with it.
Same here. If I am buying servers these days, I pretty much only look at @ryan-from-xbyte xByte for Dell equipment or SuperMicro in markets where getting Dell is difficult (Canada!!) or when we need form factors that Dell does not provide. These are our two go to vendors.
Hmm, why xByte instead of going through a Dell rep? Pros / Cons?
Refurbished servers with support at a much better price.
Ah I see... New = Dell, Refurbished + support/warranty = xByte?
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@Tim_G said in New Server for the office:
@scottalanmiller said in New Server for the office:
@coliver said in New Server for the office:
I would say check out SuperMicro and xByte. They have loads of options available and the support to go along with it.
Same here. If I am buying servers these days, I pretty much only look at @ryan-from-xbyte xByte for Dell equipment or SuperMicro in markets where getting Dell is difficult (Canada!!) or when we need form factors that Dell does not provide. These are our two go to vendors.
Hmm, why xByte instead of going through a Dell rep? Pros / Cons?
Lower cost. Same support. So you either save money or you can get more for the money.
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Oh and xByte doesn't have their reps quit every two weeks like the Dell people do. You can always reach the people that you need.
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For the workload as you have specified, I would totally go with a Synology and be done.
Buy a second one and stick it in the main office and use it as a backup target for he first. Or stick the second one in a colo. Your daily change rate seem small so the offsite replication should be no big deal.
I would not even bother with a server and virtualization and all that overhead (not that it is a lot).
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This with 4 x 3TB drives gives you 6TB of space.
https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/RS815+ -
Then you can setup something on the one in the colo to backup to some cloud source to get a detached backup of the data. Since the two Synology will be sync and not backup.
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@JaredBusch said in New Server for the office:
This with 4 x 3TB drives gives you 6TB of space.
https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/RS815+Getting a quote on it now... Thanks!
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@bigbear said in New Server for the office:
@JaredBusch said in New Server for the office:
This with 4 x 3TB drives gives you 6TB of space.
https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/RS815+Getting a quote on it now... Thanks!
there may be more cost effective models. that was just the first one on the page when I went to get a link for an example.
