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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22
      last edited by

      I read this in a MS article:

      "After about six hours on the phone with MS Support, the problem is related to the Microsoft Exchange Search Indexer Service. I don't know if it is a bug in Exchange or something in my design, but I had to dismount databases, stop the Exchange Information Store Service then delete catalogs from all database copies (active and passive). After restarting Exchange Information Store Service and remounting the databases the backs now truncate logs. The rep said the Microsoft Exchange Search Indexer Service wasn't allowing the Replication Service to truncate logs.

      In addition to this issue I am seeing problems with the ContentIndexState, upon replica creation, being set to Crawling and never coming out. If I restart the Microsoft Exchange Search Indexer Service, the state moves to Healthy.

      It appears all my issues point to the Microsoft Exchange Search Indexer Service and it's manifesting itself in different ways. My case is in the process of being escalated so I'll post back with an update. Hopefully someone else won't have to spend weeks fighting this too."

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        Definitely sounds like one possibility.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by

          So what's your plan to fix this?

          If you have another server with enough storage on it, you might be able to stand up another Exchange server and migration fully over to that, then decom the old one.

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22 @Dashrender
            last edited by wirestyle22

            @Dashrender I don't have anything I can use to migrate it. I'm not sure. The full backup took 3 days, I was hoping to have a little more time to resolve this. Not sure.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @wirestyle22
              last edited by

              @wirestyle22 said in Exchange 2010 Hard Drive Space Issues:

              @Dashrender I don't have anything I can use to migrate it. I'm not sure. The full backup took 3 days, I was hoping to have a little more time to resolve this. Not sure.

              What about those new servers that were ordered a few weeks ago? are they coming in?

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              • momurdaM
                momurda
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                Was the backup successful? What Event viewer logs were generated on completion of your backup?

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22 @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said in Exchange 2010 Hard Drive Space Issues:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Exchange 2010 Hard Drive Space Issues:

                  @Dashrender I don't have anything I can use to migrate it. I'm not sure. The full backup took 3 days, I was hoping to have a little more time to resolve this. Not sure.

                  What about those new servers that were ordered a few weeks ago? are they coming in?

                  Politics slow everything down.

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22 @momurda
                    last edited by

                    @momurda said in Exchange 2010 Hard Drive Space Issues:

                    Was the backup successful? What Event viewer logs were generated on completion of your backup?

                    I haven't been able to look at it myself. My boss said they were. I can't verify. I'm out in the world today

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22
                      last edited by wirestyle22

                      Two exceptions. From what I read you have to have 100% log files backed up for them to truncate. New log files are being generated still.

                      Writer Id: {76FE1AC4-15F7-4BCD-987E-8E1ACB462FB7}
                      Instance Id: {7C0EF254-BE27-4017-BAE7-E0F158B6BD01}
                      Writer Name: Microsoft Exchange Writer
                      Writer State: 5
                      Failure Result: 800423F3
                      Application Result: 1
                      Application Message: (null)
                         Component: fd52b799-9220-44b7-a01f-227c24c674ef
                         Logical Path: Microsoft Exchange Server\Microsoft Information Store\Exchange Server
                         Component Result: 800423F3
                         Component Message: (null)
                             File Spec: D:\Data\MailBoxes\Domain\Mailbox -Exchange Server.edb Recursive: 0
                             File Spec: D:\Data\Logs\Domain\Mailbox -Domain\\E00*.log Recursive: 0
                             File Spec: D:\Data\Logs\Domain\Mailbox -Domain\\E00.chk Recursive: 0
                         Component: 14106486-6449-412c-b568-54b405837a54
                         Logical Path: Microsoft Exchange Server\Microsoft Information Store\Exchange Server
                         Component Result: 800423F3
                         Component Message: (null)
                             File Spec: D:\Data\Public Folders\Domain\Public Folder-Domain.edb Recursive: 0
                             File Spec: D:\Data\Public Folders\Domain\Logs\Public Folder-Domain.edb\\E01*.log Recursive: 0
                             File Spec: D:\Data\Public Folders\Domain\Logs\Public Folder-Domain.edb\\E01.chk Recursive: 0```
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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22
                        last edited by wirestyle22

                        Note: I have a meeting at 10:00 AM. Was just notified.

                        Note 2: It's a vendor. Not like I'm in trouble

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                          Texkonc
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                          Do you have the ability to setup a temp server and setup something like Veam, BackupExec, etc... in trial mode that are exchange aware just to trunk the logs and still use your target media?

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @Texkonc
                            last edited by

                            @Texkonc said in Exchange 2010 Hard Drive Space Issues:

                            Do you have the ability to setup a temp server and setup something like Veam, BackupExec, etc... in trial mode that are exchange aware just to trunk the logs and still use your target media?

                            Good call. Install Veeam B&R in trial mode, make a full backup to any media you got, even a USB HDD.

                            Once it all truncates, let your normal backup kick off again.

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                              Texkonc @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @JaredBusch said in Exchange 2010 Hard Drive Space Issues:

                              @Texkonc said in Exchange 2010 Hard Drive Space Issues:

                              Do you have the ability to setup a temp server and setup something like Veam, BackupExec, etc... in trial mode that are exchange aware just to trunk the logs and still use your target media?

                              Good call. Install Veeam B&R in trial mode, make a full backup to any media you got, even a USB HDD.

                              Once it all truncates, let your normal backup kick off again.

                              Surely he has an old server laying around, hell, even leave windows in trial mode, and buy a USB drive that is at least double the databases or more. It is cheaper than a outage i bet.

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                              • momurdaM
                                momurda @Texkonc
                                last edited by

                                @Texkonc Cheaper than an outage for sure. With 2 million log files (2.2TB of logs/1024kB each) if this exchange server has something go wrong it will be very hard to to get it all working again.

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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22
                                  last edited by wirestyle22

                                  I read that the Veeam backup is around 10x faster than a windows server backup. Normally this would sound like a marketing ploy but everyone here on ML seems to swear by Veeam. Can anyone confirm? The windows backup took 3 days to complete, thats why I ask.

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                                  • momurdaM
                                    momurda
                                    last edited by

                                    I dont know about speed, but i do know from my previous xp with Veeam that it is a great product. I was never not able to do restores of exchange (vm/brick level) at my last job. It was really quick to restore individual mailbox items and deleted-on-accident contacts without issue. It also provides central backup and restore services for you entire virtual infrastucture, something WSB and Cobian cant.

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @momurda
                                      last edited by

                                      @momurda said in Exchange 2010 Hard Drive Space Issues:

                                      I dont know about speed, but i do know from my previous xp with Veeam that it is a great product. I was never not able to do restores of exchange (vm/brick level) at my last job. It was really quick to restore individual mailbox items and deleted-on-accident contacts without issue. It also provides central backup and restore services for you entire virtual infrastucture, something WSB and Cobian cant.

                                      Yeah I know it's good, but my issue is I can't bog down the server for 3 days again until the weekend. I'd like to resolve this sooner, but I'm kind of stuck.

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                                        Texkonc @wirestyle22
                                        last edited by

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Exchange 2010 Hard Drive Space Issues:

                                        @momurda said in Exchange 2010 Hard Drive Space Issues:

                                        I dont know about speed, but i do know from my previous xp with Veeam that it is a great product. I was never not able to do restores of exchange (vm/brick level) at my last job. It was really quick to restore individual mailbox items and deleted-on-accident contacts without issue. It also provides central backup and restore services for you entire virtual infrastucture, something WSB and Cobian cant.

                                        Yeah I know it's good, but my issue is I can't bog down the server for 3 days again until the weekend. I'd like to resolve this sooner, but I'm kind of stuck.

                                        Bog it down for 3 days or trying to recover it with the massive log file db?

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22 @Texkonc
                                          last edited by

                                          @Texkonc said in Exchange 2010 Hard Drive Space Issues:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Exchange 2010 Hard Drive Space Issues:

                                          @momurda said in Exchange 2010 Hard Drive Space Issues:

                                          I dont know about speed, but i do know from my previous xp with Veeam that it is a great product. I was never not able to do restores of exchange (vm/brick level) at my last job. It was really quick to restore individual mailbox items and deleted-on-accident contacts without issue. It also provides central backup and restore services for you entire virtual infrastucture, something WSB and Cobian cant.

                                          Yeah I know it's good, but my issue is I can't bog down the server for 3 days again until the weekend. I'd like to resolve this sooner, but I'm kind of stuck.

                                          Bog it down for 3 days or trying to recover it with the massive log file db?

                                          That is word for word what I said to my boss. I don't have deciding power though

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                                            Texkonc @wirestyle22
                                            last edited by

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Exchange 2010 Hard Drive Space Issues:

                                            @Texkonc said in Exchange 2010 Hard Drive Space Issues:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Exchange 2010 Hard Drive Space Issues:

                                            @momurda said in Exchange 2010 Hard Drive Space Issues:

                                            I dont know about speed, but i do know from my previous xp with Veeam that it is a great product. I was never not able to do restores of exchange (vm/brick level) at my last job. It was really quick to restore individual mailbox items and deleted-on-accident contacts without issue. It also provides central backup and restore services for you entire virtual infrastucture, something WSB and Cobian cant.

                                            Yeah I know it's good, but my issue is I can't bog down the server for 3 days again until the weekend. I'd like to resolve this sooner, but I'm kind of stuck.

                                            Bog it down for 3 days or trying to recover it with the massive log file db?

                                            That is word for word what I said to my boss. I don't have deciding power though

                                            What if that massive log file gets corrupt when you go down? Then you are burned even more.
                                            Have you measured the strain it puts on it? IF you use an enterprise backup product, will he even notice? You brought up the concerns, but you feel it is the best move. You know the environment, you know what it can handle. Your ass is on the line, even though you told mgt.

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