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    The SMB Two Server Dilema, What to Do

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Veet
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      @Veet said in The SMB Two Server Dilema, What to Do:

      umm... . not sure if this belong here, but has anyone used Zerto ? Any indication of the price-points ? also, are there any similar product(s)/solution(s) that're free of cost ?

      XenOrchestra does that for free. Although limited value, as DRBD does this better for free as well. You only use this for specific situations where you don't want the full replication.

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        Francesco Provino @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller of course is part of the kernel, but is useless without the management tools.

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          scottalanmiller @Francesco Provino
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          @Francesco-Provino said in The SMB Two Server Dilema, What to Do:

          @scottalanmiller of course is part of the kernel, but is useless without the management tools.

          Yes, but adding a management tool is not the same as adding the functionality. It's not that you are getting something and shoehorning it in, you are just deciding what interface you want to manage the built in functionality with.

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            Veet @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in The SMB Two Server Dilema, What to Do:

            @Veet said in The SMB Two Server Dilema, What to Do:

            umm... . not sure if this belong here, but has anyone used Zerto ? Any indication of the price-points ? also, are there any similar product(s)/solution(s) that're free of cost ?

            XenOrchestra does that for free. Although limited value, as DRBD does this better for free as well. You only use this for specific situations where you don't want the full replication.

            From what I read-up on Zerto, is that it can do cross hypervisor replication ... I'm not sure whether DRBD does that ..

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              A lot of people don't want third party tools that come from an unknown source. That the DRBD feature is totally built into the kernel and there just waiting to be exposed with an interface is a big deal that makes users feel much better than getting the actual functionality from a different company.

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                whizzard
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                In scenarios such as these what would be the recommended backup approach: DAS, NAS, Backup Appliance, lower end server, removable disk storage, tapes (intentionally left out cloud)?

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                  scottalanmiller @Veet
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                  @Veet said in The SMB Two Server Dilema, What to Do:

                  @scottalanmiller said in The SMB Two Server Dilema, What to Do:

                  @Veet said in The SMB Two Server Dilema, What to Do:

                  umm... . not sure if this belong here, but has anyone used Zerto ? Any indication of the price-points ? also, are there any similar product(s)/solution(s) that're free of cost ?

                  XenOrchestra does that for free. Although limited value, as DRBD does this better for free as well. You only use this for specific situations where you don't want the full replication.

                  From what I read-up on Zerto, is that it can do cross hypervisor replication ... I'm not sure whether DRBD does that ..

                  DRBD doesn't care what you use, it just makes identical storage in two locations. It's a pure storage solution, not a "replication" solution. This is network RAID.

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                    scottalanmiller @whizzard
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                    @whizzard said in The SMB Two Server Dilema, What to Do:

                    In scenarios such as these what would be the recommended backup approach: DAS, NAS, Backup Appliance, lower end server, removable disk storage, tapes (intentionally left out cloud)?

                    That's a lot more flexible. DAS, removable disk and similar are not very easy to use and backups + hard to use = no backups. NAS, file server, backup appliance and tape are the good solutions and each depends heavily on your needs. Appliances vs. software + storage is basically "what product do you want". NAS vs. file server is just two of the same thing, different look and feel. Tape is the odd man out here, but has a lot of good use cases. It's ability to remain cold, last for a really long time and be totally disconnected from the original storage is all really nice.

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                    • KOOLERK
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                      @whizzard said in The SMB Two Server Dilema, What to Do:

                      In scenarios such as these what would be the recommended backup approach: DAS, NAS, Backup Appliance, lower end server, removable disk storage, tapes (intentionally left out cloud)?

                      Should be separate (physically!) entity non-related to your production cluster. Cheap NAS is OK.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @KOOLER
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                        @KOOLER said in The SMB Two Server Dilema, What to Do:

                        @whizzard said in The SMB Two Server Dilema, What to Do:

                        In scenarios such as these what would be the recommended backup approach: DAS, NAS, Backup Appliance, lower end server, removable disk storage, tapes (intentionally left out cloud)?

                        Should be separate (physically!) entity non-related to your production cluster. Cheap NAS is OK.

                        For the average scenario (and I really just mean average) it's Synology or ReadyNAS that I recommend. Easy, supported, cost effective, desktop or rackmount options, well known, good brands, nice features.

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