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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Other common places you would see this is a MongoDB cluster node, Redis node, Cassandra node, MariaDB Galera node, etc.

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22
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        Is there a way for me to verify this secondary dc is functioning as intended?

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        • coliverC
          coliver @wirestyle22
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          @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

          Is there a way for me to verify this secondary domain is functioning as intended?

          Try binding to it.

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22 @coliver
            last edited by wirestyle22

            @coliver said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

            @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

            Is there a way for me to verify this secondary domain is functioning as intended?

            Try binding to it.

            I worded this wrong. Sorry.

            This is a secondary DC. I didn't think you could specify the domain controller, it's just round robin. How do I verify that it's working.

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            • travisdh1T
              travisdh1 @wirestyle22
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              @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

              @coliver said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

              @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

              Is there a way for me to verify this secondary domain is functioning as intended?

              Try binding to it.

              I worded this wrong. Sorry.

              This is a secondary DC. I didn't think you could specify the domain controller, it's just round robin. How do I verify that it's working.

              Shut down all the other DC when you test?
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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @travisdh1
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                @travisdh1 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                @coliver said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                Is there a way for me to verify this secondary domain is functioning as intended?

                Try binding to it.

                I worded this wrong. Sorry.

                This is a secondary DC. I didn't think you could specify the domain controller, it's just round robin. How do I verify that it's working.

                Shut down all the other DC when you test?
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                just remember to /wrists

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                  @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                  @coliver said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                  Is there a way for me to verify this secondary domain is functioning as intended?

                  Try binding to it.

                  I worded this wrong. Sorry.

                  This is a secondary DC. I didn't think you could specify the domain controller, it's just round robin. How do I verify that it's working.

                  Second DC, not secondary. Haven't been secondary DCs ever in Active Directory. That terminology is mistakenly brought over from the PDC/BDC days of Windows NT and the SAM system that pre-dates AD. Once AD replaced SAM, there was no more secondary concepts.

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                    @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                    @coliver said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                    @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                    Is there a way for me to verify this secondary domain is functioning as intended?

                    Try binding to it.

                    I worded this wrong. Sorry.

                    This is a secondary DC. I didn't think you could specify the domain controller, it's just round robin. How do I verify that it's working.

                    Second DC, not secondary. Haven't been secondary DCs ever in Active Directory. That terminology is mistakenly brought over from the PDC/BDC days of Windows NT and the SAM system that pre-dates AD. Once AD replaced SAM, there was no more secondary concepts.

                    non FSMO DC?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                      @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                      @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                      @coliver said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                      @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                      Is there a way for me to verify this secondary domain is functioning as intended?

                      Try binding to it.

                      I worded this wrong. Sorry.

                      This is a secondary DC. I didn't think you could specify the domain controller, it's just round robin. How do I verify that it's working.

                      Second DC, not secondary. Haven't been secondary DCs ever in Active Directory. That terminology is mistakenly brought over from the PDC/BDC days of Windows NT and the SAM system that pre-dates AD. Once AD replaced SAM, there was no more secondary concepts.

                      non FSMO DC?

                      Think of it as a "Member DC" rather than a "Solo DC". What matters is that it is not alone.

                      FSMO roles do matter, but only in that post DC setup they should be moved over.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver
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                        Wait. Sorry this is a second DC in your current domain or a secondary domain?

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22 @coliver
                          last edited by wirestyle22

                          @coliver said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                          Wait. Sorry this is a second DC in your current domain or a secondary domain?

                          Second DC. Sorry, I wrote it wrong.

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22
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                            Another question I have is: Does the hypervisor need to be syncing with the time server or is that only important for the VM's?

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @wirestyle22
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                              @wirestyle22 said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                              @coliver said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                              Wait. Sorry this is a second DC in your current domain or a secondary domain?

                              Second DC. Sorry I wrote it wrong.

                              No problem. If that's the case you can use powershell to test against it. You'll also want to take a look at repadmin to make sure that replication is going through correctly.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @wirestyle22
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                                @wirestyle22 said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                                Another question I have is: Does the hypervisor need to be syncing with the time server or is that only important for the VM's?

                                It's less important but it's generally a good idea to have everything sync to the same time server.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @coliver
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                                  @coliver said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                                  Another question I have is: Does the hypervisor need to be syncing with the time server or is that only important for the VM's?

                                  It's less important but it's generally a good idea to have everything sync to the same time server.

                                  I disable time sync to the Hypervisor always. It is never anything but trouble.

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                                  • Son of Jor-ElS
                                    Son of Jor-El @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                                    @coliver said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                                    Is there a way for me to verify this secondary domain is functioning as intended?

                                    Try binding to it.

                                    I worded this wrong. Sorry.

                                    This is a secondary DC. I didn't think you could specify the domain controller, it's just round robin. How do I verify that it's working.

                                    Second DC, not secondary. Haven't been secondary DCs ever in Active Directory. That terminology is mistakenly brought over from the PDC/BDC days of Windows NT and the SAM system that pre-dates AD. Once AD replaced SAM, there was no more secondary concepts.

                                    Quoted for truth. Glad you pointed this out. That terminology needs to die so no one gets confused.

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @Son of Jor-El
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                                      @Son-of-Jor-El said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                                      @coliver said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                                      Is there a way for me to verify this secondary domain is functioning as intended?

                                      Try binding to it.

                                      I worded this wrong. Sorry.

                                      This is a secondary DC. I didn't think you could specify the domain controller, it's just round robin. How do I verify that it's working.

                                      Second DC, not secondary. Haven't been secondary DCs ever in Active Directory. That terminology is mistakenly brought over from the PDC/BDC days of Windows NT and the SAM system that pre-dates AD. Once AD replaced SAM, there was no more secondary concepts.

                                      Quoted for truth. Glad you pointed this out. That terminology needs to die so no one gets confused.

                                      He's corrected me at least ten times and I still keep doing it. Trying to get it out of my head completely.

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                                      • wirestyle22W
                                        wirestyle22
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                                        I'm most likely going to need to create another thread this weekend. Going to make a from scratch domain + domain controller as if we were just establishing a business.

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                                          Texkonc
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                                          I learned this the hard way to never ever do again. When the DB on a particular DC is effed and then randomly does weird crap like lets say deleting users....

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                                            Texkonc @wirestyle22
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                                            @wirestyle22 said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                                            I'm most likely going to need to create another thread this weekend. Going to make a from scratch domain + domain controller as if we were just establishing a business.

                                            Why?
                                            Starting from scratch will mean the users will have to join a new domain, meaning their user profile will be changed on the desktops. You know how users fear change...

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