Solved Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.
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@travisdh1 said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@scottalanmiller said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@Dashrender said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@openit said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@scottalanmiller said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
What kind of patches do you want to manage in this way?
General third party software like Adobe, flash, java etc.
you can control Adobe reader and java with Chocolately. Flash is dead, bury it
for reals though, upgrade to Windows 10 and it manages Flash inside IE.Can you even run Flash inside Chrome anymore? I don't think you can.
Flash definitely comes with Chrome. It's built in.
I thought they announced that flash support is being depreciated, sometime soon, but I don't remember the source.
by 2017 it will be disabled by default, but it still baked in and can be enabled.
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@travisdh1 said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@scottalanmiller said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@Dashrender said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@openit said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@scottalanmiller said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
What kind of patches do you want to manage in this way?
General third party software like Adobe, flash, java etc.
you can control Adobe reader and java with Chocolately. Flash is dead, bury it
for reals though, upgrade to Windows 10 and it manages Flash inside IE.Can you even run Flash inside Chrome anymore? I don't think you can.
Flash definitely comes with Chrome. It's built in.
I thought they announced that flash support is being depreciated, sometime soon, but I don't remember the source.
Recent installs of chrome do not have flash enabled by default, but the first time I go to a site that needs it, I see a loading screen.
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I recommend PDQ Pro at a minumum. Don't worry your company will make their money back in a day or two considering how much time you will save.
Their free version is good, too. It just has too many restrictions. The nice part is you can start a 14 day trial once you learn how the free version works so you can make a good assessment. The good thing about the trial is you can activate it yourself and don't have to go through sales people for anything. I have never once had them harass me with sales because their product is so good and is very reasonably priced.
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PDQ is awfully good. But for patching, why not use the OS itself or WSUS?
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@StrongBad said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
PDQ is awfully good. But for patching, why not use the OS itself or WSUS?
That works for OS level, but what about application level patching?
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Does Comodo patch applications?
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@StrongBad said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
Does Comodo patch applications?
Yup.
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@openit I may go with PDQ Deploy, specifically because my concern is about On-premises, whereas Comodo is only cloud.
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@openit said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@openit I may go with PDQ Deploy, specifically because my concern is about On-premises, whereas Comodo is only cloud.
Do you have a reason to be local vs using a cloud solution?
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@Dashrender Not technically, but mentally maybe
I prefer to be local than cloud. -
@openit said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@Dashrender Not technically, but mentally maybe
I prefer to be local than cloud.While I can understand that - I know of many Exchange servers that have had zero no anticipated downtime, but you hear about outages in O365 all the time. Even so, the environment is still better in O365 than most if not all of the SMBs can provide.
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@Dashrender said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@StrongBad said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
PDQ is awfully good. But for patching, why not use the OS itself or WSUS?
That works for OS level, but what about application level patching?
Also WSUS is a disaster to deal with in a small business. More headache than it is worth really.
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@JaredBusch said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@Dashrender said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@StrongBad said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
PDQ is awfully good. But for patching, why not use the OS itself or WSUS?
That works for OS level, but what about application level patching?
Also WSUS is a disaster to deal with in a small business. More headache than it is worth really.
I generally avoid it. Lots of work, encourages people not to patch. In a big environment I totally get it, but in smaller ones, I skip it unless there is a very clear need.
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@Dashrender said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@openit said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@Dashrender Not technically, but mentally maybe
I prefer to be local than cloud.While I can understand that - I know of many Exchange servers that have had zero no anticipated downtime, but you hear about outages in O365 all the time. Even so, the environment is still better in O365 than most if not all of the SMBs can provide.
I think, it depends on the service or benefits to choose Local or Cloud.
FYI, we are with O365, which is good. And we get more benefits on cloud for Exchange things than to be local
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@JaredBusch said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@Dashrender said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@StrongBad said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
PDQ is awfully good. But for patching, why not use the OS itself or WSUS?
That works for OS level, but what about application level patching?
Also WSUS is a disaster to deal with in a small business. More headache than it is worth really.
Do you mean, it's not that much easy to use, so not suitable for Small Business ?
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@openit said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@JaredBusch said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@Dashrender said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@StrongBad said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
PDQ is awfully good. But for patching, why not use the OS itself or WSUS?
That works for OS level, but what about application level patching?
Also WSUS is a disaster to deal with in a small business. More headache than it is worth really.
Do you mean, it's not that much easy to use, so not suitable for Small Business ?
I'm guessing both. It's a ton of overhead that serves little purpose (potentially even negative purpose) requiring lots of storage, another system to maintain, etc. And it takes a bit of work to use it. And it adds the risk that you might feel like you should filter your patches which, unless you have a full testing department, you should not.
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@scottalanmiller said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@JaredBusch said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@Dashrender said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
@StrongBad said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
PDQ is awfully good. But for patching, why not use the OS itself or WSUS?
That works for OS level, but what about application level patching?
Also WSUS is a disaster to deal with in a small business. More headache than it is worth really.
I generally avoid it. Lots of work, encourages people not to patch. In a big environment I totally get it, but in smaller ones, I skip it unless there is a very clear need.
I see, so it requires lots of work, which may not be feasible at Small Businesses ?
You said "encourages people not to patch", what do you mean here ? do you mean not to patch Windows Updates with WSUS from MS ?
If so, you are asking to go with some other third party software to manage Windows Updates ?
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@openit said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
I see, so it requires lots of work, which may not be feasible at Small Businesses ?
It requires effort... and effort without real benefit. For any business all effort needs to have a reward for doing it. And WSUS generally lacks that in the SMB.
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@openit said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
If so, you are asking to go with some other third party software to manage Windows Updates ?
What's the purpose of managing the updates at all?
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@openit said in Comodo One Free-Feedback, specially abt Patch Management vs PDQ Deploy Free.:
You said "encourages people not to patch", what do you mean here ? do you mean not to patch Windows Updates with WSUS from MS ?
WSUS has one primary purpose in the SMB.... to stop or slow patching. But that's generally very, very bad. You want systems patched as quickly as possible. So WSUS actively gets in the way of doing a good job. What purpose do you see WSUS serving in your environment?
