Microsoft Licensing... Old Agreements...
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Folks,
Hopefully you can help with this… In our VLSC centre, we have previous ‘expired’ agreements.
One agreement had an end date of 30/6/2012; in this agreement, although the status of the agreement is now ‘expired’, we purchased:
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2 x P71-01088 in 2009.
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2 x P71-01088 again in 2010.
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And 2 x P71-01088 yet again in 2011.
Since P71-01088 is 'Windows Server Datacenter Edition with 1 Year SA' (perpetual I think????), does that mean that we would still own these three licenses now and can legally still use them/activate now?
They don’t look like annual subscriptions to me but one off purchases with SA (the SA would be expired obv).
These were never used, and are perpetual right? So we even now still own them even though the specific agreement has expired. Could we buy servers and license these three copies of Datacenter on to them?
As each had SA, each are allowed up to 2008 R2 max going by the purchase dates?
(Not saying we will, but in theory, are we legal?)
These were purchased by previous IT and just want to know where I stand with them...
Thanks again, (also posted on Spiceworks)
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1915586-licensing-againThanks,
Jim -
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@Jimmy9008 said in Microsoft Licensing... Old Agreements...:
Folks,
Hopefully you can help with this… In our VLSC centre, we have previous ‘expired’ agreements.
One agreement had an end date of 30/6/2012; in this agreement, although the status of the agreement is now ‘expired’, we purchased:
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2 x P71-01088 in 2009.
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2 x P71-01088 again in 2010.
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And 2 x P71-01088 yet again in 2011.
Since P71-01088 is 'Windows Server Datacenter Edition with 1 Year SA' (perpetual I think????), does that mean that we would still own these three licenses now and can legally still use them/activate now?
They don’t look like annual subscriptions to me but one off purchases with SA (the SA would be expired obv).
These were never used, and are perpetual right? So we even now still own them even though the specific agreement has expired. Could we buy servers and license these three copies of Datacenter on to them?
As each had SA, each are allowed up to 2008 R2 max going by the purchase dates?
(Not saying we will, but in theory, are we legal?)
These were purchased by previous IT and just want to know where I stand with them...
Thanks again, (also posted on Spiceworks)
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1915586-licensing-againThanks,
JimDepending on exact purchase dates, the 2 in 2011 might qualify for server 2012 (not 2012 r2).
You are correct that you own the licenses perpetually. SA is only for upgrades during the life of the SA.
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As Jared said, SA gives you special upgrade and support rights, it is not the licensing for the OS itself. I know of no MS OS license that "expires", it just stops being available for updates.
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@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Licensing... Old Agreements...:
As Jared said, SA gives you special upgrade and support rights, it is not the licensing for the OS itself. I know of no MS OS license that "expires", it just stops being available for updates.
That's what I was told from our MS rep. SA is just granting you free upgrades in case MS releases a new version within the SA period.
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@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Licensing... Old Agreements...:
As Jared said, SA gives you special upgrade and support rights, it is not the licensing for the OS itself. I know of no MS OS license that "expires", it just stops being available for updates.
Server 2017.. just wait..
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So, end of this is that as the licenses are under a subscription agreement, then they are now not valid.
Oh well.But thanks folks,
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@Jimmy9008 said in Microsoft Licensing... Old Agreements...:
So, end of this is that as the licenses are under a subscription agreement, then they are now not valid.
Oh well.But thanks folks,
JimNo, that is completely not how MS licensing works.
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@JaredBusch said in Microsoft Licensing... Old Agreements...:
@Jimmy9008 said in Microsoft Licensing... Old Agreements...:
So, end of this is that as the licenses are under a subscription agreement, then they are now not valid.
Oh well.But thanks folks,
JimNo, that is completely not how MS licensing works.
Chris (Microsoft) over at Spiceworks has confirmed for me that when the subscription ended, if these were ever installed, they should be removed.
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Check the link out towards the bottom:
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1915586-licensing-again -
@Jimmy9008 said in Microsoft Licensing... Old Agreements...:
Check the link out towards the bottom:
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1915586-licensing-againYou provided different information there (did not follow the SW links before).
Yes, Open Value Subscription is different than a standard Open Value Agreement.
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@JaredBusch said in Microsoft Licensing... Old Agreements...:
@Jimmy9008 said in Microsoft Licensing... Old Agreements...:
Check the link out towards the bottom:
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1915586-licensing-againYou provided different information there (did not follow the SW links before).
Yes, Open Value Subscription is different than a standard Open Value Agreement.
Apologies
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@Jimmy9008 said in Microsoft Licensing... Old Agreements...:
@JaredBusch said in Microsoft Licensing... Old Agreements...:
@Jimmy9008 said in Microsoft Licensing... Old Agreements...:
Check the link out towards the bottom:
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1915586-licensing-againYou provided different information there (did not follow the SW links before).
Yes, Open Value Subscription is different than a standard Open Value Agreement.
Apologies
I admit, that based on your OP, I just assumed a standard OV agreement. OVS is super rare in the SMB.
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@JaredBusch said in Microsoft Licensing... Old Agreements...:
OVS is super rare in the SMB.
It's rare anywhere it's only allowed for networks with up to 250 computers.
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@JaredBusch said in Microsoft Licensing... Old Agreements...:
@Jimmy9008 said in Microsoft Licensing... Old Agreements...:
@JaredBusch said in Microsoft Licensing... Old Agreements...:
@Jimmy9008 said in Microsoft Licensing... Old Agreements...:
Check the link out towards the bottom:
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1915586-licensing-againYou provided different information there (did not follow the SW links before).
Yes, Open Value Subscription is different than a standard Open Value Agreement.
Apologies
I admit, that based on your OP, I just assumed a standard OV agreement. OVS is super rare in the SMB.
Just fixing things here. Not really tackled licenses before. Previous lot of people didn't really take care of licenses and just let the supplier gget whatever...
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Next renewal we will either get perpetual so we own, or go cloud where the price of the OS is included in the rental.
