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    • FATeknollogeeF
      FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in XenServer 7 install to Dell R730 OBR10 15TB:

      @momurda said in XenServer 7 install to Dell R730 OBR10 15TB:

      Have you checked if Thin Provisioning is on? I don't think that it works with lvm SR

      It can't be. Thin provisioning in XS is ext3 and thick is LVM. It's not that they are doing thin on ext3, it's that the terms are used interchangeably. Thin is a code name for ext3, thick is a code name for LVM. The act of mounting LVM makes it thick.

      Makes no sense...
      Why does/would the XS installer GUI even let one select Thin prov on a 14+TB SR

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        What makes no sense is why the heck does it take forever to setup an EXT SR on XS7. . .

        xe sr-create content-type=user device-config:device=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-3614187704833f8001ed9d6ae6bb5dc14-part3 host-uuid=aa6e9fa0-ba41-421f-92fa-ec34aa73c2b5 name-label="Local Storage" shared=false type=ext
        
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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @FATeknollogee
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          @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 install to Dell R730 OBR10 15TB:

          @scottalanmiller said in XenServer 7 install to Dell R730 OBR10 15TB:

          @momurda said in XenServer 7 install to Dell R730 OBR10 15TB:

          Have you checked if Thin Provisioning is on? I don't think that it works with lvm SR

          It can't be. Thin provisioning in XS is ext3 and thick is LVM. It's not that they are doing thin on ext3, it's that the terms are used interchangeably. Thin is a code name for ext3, thick is a code name for LVM. The act of mounting LVM makes it thick.

          Makes no sense...
          Why does/would the XS installer GUI even let one select Thin prov on a 14+TB SR

          Yeah that is what I was saying. Dumb.

          Unless we are missing something.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by

            The file system LVM doesn't support thin provisioning, simply.

            EXT does however, so you'd assume that by selecting enable thing provisioning, you'd be setting the local storage to be configured for EXT.

            Yet if it's over 2TB is size it doesn't mount.

            That's my guess

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill
              last edited by

              LVM definitely can't be thin provisioned? I don't know myself, but Googled...

              https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Logical_Volume_Manager_Administration/thinprovisioned_volumes.html

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                I'll play with my lab at some point and see if I can get this going.

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee
                  last edited by

                  Not sure why it let's you pick these options..............
                  0_1476301206875_xsthin.PNG

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    So the individual 8TB drives are all listed as available targets, but selecting the thin provisioning seems to do nothing.

                    It still configures it as LVM, and thick.

                    For testing, go ahead and follow through with the process, then once the install is complete run

                     xe sr-list uuid=<any 8tb uuid> params=all
                    
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                    • FATeknollogeeF
                      FATeknollogee
                      last edited by

                      Will do.
                      I added 4x 8TB virtual drives + 1x 64GB (for o/s)

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                      • FATeknollogeeF
                        FATeknollogee
                        last edited by

                        How about the message: "One SR will created that spans the selected disks"?

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                          last edited by

                          @FATeknollogee I'm not certain, I've never presented more than a single disk to be used for the local storage.

                          If it create a single array across of the disks then it's doing some sort of RAID setup. Which would be bad, since you generally want your array managed by the controller

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
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                            Unless of course you're using software raid.

                            But this was previously setup inside of XS, not during installation. (there is a guide around here somewhere with software raid and XS 6.5)

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                            • FATeknollogeeF
                              FATeknollogee
                              last edited by

                              That message seems to imply that XS would create some type of "span" across the 4 disks I selected.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                                last edited by

                                @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 install to Dell R730 OBR10 15TB:

                                That message seems to imply that XS would create some type of "span" across the 4 disks I selected.

                                I assume some sort of RAID setup (span is just a non-scary word for it)

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  I think it just spans it. No RAID.

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                                  • FATeknollogeeF
                                    FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @DustinB3403 said in XenServer 7 install to Dell R730 OBR10 15TB:

                                    So the individual 8TB drives are all listed as available targets, but selecting the thin provisioning seems to do nothing.

                                    It still configures it as LVM, and thick.

                                    For testing, go ahead and follow through with the process, then once the install is complete run

                                     xe sr-list uuid=<any 8tb uuid> params=all
                                    

                                    Ran that cmd as root: result - "No such file or directory"

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                                      last edited by

                                      @FATeknollogee You put in a proper SR uuid, correct?

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                                      • FATeknollogeeF
                                        FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        @DustinB3403 My bad, I forgot to enter the UUID.
                                        BRB

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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                                          @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 install to Dell R730 OBR10 15TB:

                                          @DustinB3403 My bad, I forgot to enter the UUID.
                                          BRB

                                          You don't have remote access (or out of band access) to the host?

                                          You can do this directly via XC and the console connection.

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                                          • FATeknollogeeF
                                            FATeknollogee
                                            last edited by

                                            THat's exactly where I am, in XC, console tab

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