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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
      last edited by JaredBusch

      @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

      @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

      @JaredBusch It has both. I set a static IP on the computer I am on currently and can connect to the internet.

      Now that you are online again, is DNS working on the DC that is up? If so, good. If not, why not?

      Willing to bet that the second DNS server is not in the DHCP config so the clients only looked to the first.

      BUt that is unfixable at the moment.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
        last edited by

        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

        @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

        @JaredBusch It has both. I set a static IP on the computer I am on currently and can connect to the internet.

        Now that you are online again, is DNS working on the DC that is up? If so, good. If not, why not?

        Willing to bet that the second DNS server is not in the DHCP config so the clients only looked to the first.

        BUt that is unfixable at the moment.

        That's my guess as well.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @JaredBusch It has both. I set a static IP on the computer I am on currently and can connect to the internet.

          Now that you are online again, is DNS working on the DC that is up? If so, good. If not, why not?

          Willing to bet that the second DNS server is not in the DHCP config so the clients only looked to the first.

          Which would also explain why he can't rejoin the network.

          Would still be good to know if the second DC is up and running.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch
            last edited by

            So ignore everything related to omg, it is a DC.

            You simply resolve a normal basic VMWare VM issue.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @BRRABill
              last edited by

              @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

              @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

              @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

              @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

              @JaredBusch It has both. I set a static IP on the computer I am on currently and can connect to the internet.

              Now that you are online again, is DNS working on the DC that is up? If so, good. If not, why not?

              Willing to bet that the second DNS server is not in the DHCP config so the clients only looked to the first.

              Which would also explain why he can't rejoin the network.

              Would still be good to know if the second DC is up and running.

              Not relevant to resolving the issue at hand.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                last edited by

                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                So ignore everything related to omg, it is a DC.

                You simply resolve a normal basic VMWare VM issue.

                This ^^^

                Time to work through good, old fashioned triage.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver
                  last edited by

                  No redundant DNS and no DHCP failover.... basic networking issues. Now that you've discovered them you can fix them permanently.

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @JaredBusch It has both. I set a static IP on the computer I am on currently and can connect to the internet.

                    Now that you are online again, is DNS working on the DC that is up? If so, good. If not, why not?

                    Willing to bet that the second DNS server is not in the DHCP config so the clients only looked to the first.

                    BUt that is unfixable at the moment.

                    How do I make it fixable? This places backups are absolutely horrendous and I'm sure it is not recoverable. I have been fighting with them to change it and then this happens.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      The fastest thing to do is to do is to simply restore from Veeam/Unitrends/Whatever.

                      Done up and nothing else matters.

                      You can then prioritize resolving the fagility in the current setup.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver
                        last edited by coliver

                        If you have no backups then you need to look at DHCP and getting a second/new server set up. Or seeing if your firewall has the ability to hand out addresses that may be the quickest way to do it.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @wirestyle22
                          last edited by JaredBusch

                          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @JaredBusch It has both. I set a static IP on the computer I am on currently and can connect to the internet.

                          Now that you are online again, is DNS working on the DC that is up? If so, good. If not, why not?

                          Willing to bet that the second DNS server is not in the DHCP config so the clients only looked to the first.

                          BUt that is unfixable at the moment.

                          How do I make it fixable? This places backups are absolutely horrendous and I'm sure it is not recoverable. I have been fighting with them to change it and then this happens.

                          If you have no backup, then browse the datastore as we told you and find out if all the VM files are still there.

                          In terms of DR, the only important one is the VMDK(s)

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @coliver
                            last edited by

                            @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            If you have no backups then you need to look at DHCP and getting a second/new server set up. Or seeing if your firewall has the ability to hand out addresses that may be the quickest way to do it.

                            That is a step down the road if the VM is completely unrecoverable.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              The fastest thing to do is to do is to simply restore from Veeam/Unitrends/Whatever.

                              Done up and nothing else matters.

                              You can then prioritize resolving the fagility in the current setup.

                              So AD on the down DC would not have been syncing with the other DC he has if DNS was set up incorrectly?

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                The fastest thing to do is to do is to simply restore from Veeam/Unitrends/Whatever.

                                Done up and nothing else matters.

                                You can then prioritize resolving the fagility in the current setup.

                                So AD on the down DC would not have been syncing with the other DC he has if DNS was set up incorrectly?

                                This does not matter FFS, forget about AD.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @BRRABill
                                  last edited by coliver

                                  @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  The fastest thing to do is to do is to simply restore from Veeam/Unitrends/Whatever.

                                  Done up and nothing else matters.

                                  You can then prioritize resolving the fagility in the current setup.

                                  So AD on the down DC would not have been syncing with the other DC he has if DNS was set up incorrectly?

                                  This is a down DNS and DHCP server for all intents and purposes at this point. We don't care about AD until he gets DNS and DHCP back up and running.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch said

                                    This does not matter FFS, forget about AD.

                                    He said there is another DC. How does it not matter?

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @BRRABill
                                      last edited by

                                      @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                      @JaredBusch said

                                      This does not matter FFS, forget about AD.

                                      He said there is another DC. How does it not matter?

                                      It only matters if that other DC is also a DNS and DHCP server.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @BRRABill
                                        last edited by

                                        @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @JaredBusch said

                                        This does not matter FFS, forget about AD.

                                        He said there is another DC. How does it not matter?

                                        Because this is a DHCP/DNS down issue. not an AD down issue.

                                        This has nothing to do with DC replication.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                          @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                          @JaredBusch said

                                          This does not matter FFS, forget about AD.

                                          He said there is another DC. How does it not matter?

                                          It only matters if that other DC is also a DNS and DHCP server.

                                          And this is not possible in a 2003/2008 environment. DHCP redundancy was only added in 2012 R2 (maybe 2012).

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch
                                            last edited by

                                            @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

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