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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @coliver
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      @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

      http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2016-08/sdsu-mls080116.php

      Risk aversion leads to less sex in millennials.

      "Oh %$^& I'm pregnant at 15" is news to scare enough people from wanting to shack up.

      Pretty much that and the awareness of STDs that wasn't as prominent in previous generations.

      What is odd is that talk of STDs was like all that there was in the 1980s. Today it has gone away mostly.

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      • RojoLocoR
        RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

        http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2016-08/sdsu-mls080116.php

        Risk aversion leads to less sex in millennials.

        "Oh %$^& I'm pregnant at 15" is news to scare enough people from wanting to shack up.

        Pretty much that and the awareness of STDs that wasn't as prominent in previous generations.

        What is odd is that talk of STDs was like all that there was in the 1980s. Today it has gone away mostly.

        Exactly. Remember when HIV was a death sentence? That was scary.

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        • coliverC
          coliver @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

          http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2016-08/sdsu-mls080116.php

          Risk aversion leads to less sex in millennials.

          "Oh %$^& I'm pregnant at 15" is news to scare enough people from wanting to shack up.

          Pretty much that and the awareness of STDs that wasn't as prominent in previous generations.

          What is odd is that talk of STDs was like all that there was in the 1980s. Today it has gone away mostly.

          Really? It is taught comprehensively in middle and high school in NY. I guess we don't have the news stories about AIDs that were constant during the 80s though.

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          • coliverC
            coliver
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            Apparently teen use of Marijuana has gone down after legalization in Colorado. Granted it is a survey so the results can be a bit skewed.

            https://www.colorado.gov/cdphe/hkcs/reports

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre @coliver
              last edited by dafyre

              @coliver It's legal now... No need to do it under the bleachers after school.

              Edit: Now they can openly do it in the bathrooms during lunch.

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              • coliverC
                coliver @dafyre
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                @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @coliver It's legal now... No need to do it under the bleachers after school.

                Edit: Now they can openly do it in the bathrooms during lunch.

                It was one of the big arguments against legalization though, selling it legally would lead to rampant and widespread use...

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                • tonyshowoffT
                  tonyshowoff @coliver
                  last edited by

                  @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  Apparently teen use of Marijuana has gone down after legalization in Colorado. Granted it is a survey so the results can be a bit skewed.

                  https://www.colorado.gov/cdphe/hkcs/reports

                  I find it hard to believe it would go down, after all, alcohol consumption went down amongst young people in the 1970s and 1980s in America because of the end of prohibition... oh wait it didn't.

                  Let's forget that and focus on one thing, it's a self-reported survey, and according to this, 6.4% females obese, 13.2% males... in America?

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @tonyshowoff
                    last edited by

                    @tonyshowoff said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    Apparently teen use of Marijuana has gone down after legalization in Colorado. Granted it is a survey so the results can be a bit skewed.

                    https://www.colorado.gov/cdphe/hkcs/reports

                    I find it hard to believe it would go down, after all, alcohol consumption went down amongst young people in the 1970s and 1980s in America because of the end of prohibition... oh wait it didn't.

                    Let's forget that and focus on one thing, it's a self-reported survey, and according to this, 6.4% females obese, 13.2% males... in America?

                    Hence my mentioning it was a survey so the results may be a bit skewed.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @coliver
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                      @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      Apparently teen use of Marijuana has gone down after legalization in Colorado. Granted it is a survey so the results can be a bit skewed.

                      https://www.colorado.gov/cdphe/hkcs/reports

                      That's what was always expected since that has been mirrored everywhere in the world.

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                      • RojoLocoR
                        RojoLoco @coliver
                        last edited by

                        @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @coliver It's legal now... No need to do it under the bleachers after school.

                        Edit: Now they can openly do it in the bathrooms during lunch.

                        It was one of the big arguments against legalization though, selling it legally would lead to rampant and widespread use...

                        There really aren't any valid arguments against legalization.

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                        • tonyshowoffT
                          tonyshowoff @coliver
                          last edited by

                          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @tonyshowoff said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          Apparently teen use of Marijuana has gone down after legalization in Colorado. Granted it is a survey so the results can be a bit skewed.

                          https://www.colorado.gov/cdphe/hkcs/reports

                          I find it hard to believe it would go down, after all, alcohol consumption went down amongst young people in the 1970s and 1980s in America because of the end of prohibition... oh wait it didn't.

                          Let's forget that and focus on one thing, it's a self-reported survey, and according to this, 6.4% females obese, 13.2% males... in America?

                          Hence my mentioning it was a survey so the results may be a bit skewed.

                          I'd say more than a bit on those "yeah I'm totally not fat you guys" questions 😛

                          Further:

                          Four out of five Colorado high school students have not used marijuana in the last 30 days, a rate
                          that remains relatively unchanged since 2013. Colorado does not significantly differ from the
                          national average in lifetime or current marijuana use (Figure 4a).

                          Basically not different, seems vastly different "gone down", that seems more like confirmation bias in a way. If it hasn't really changed it's not statically different, especially if it's within the margin of error.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @coliver
                            last edited by

                            @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @coliver It's legal now... No need to do it under the bleachers after school.

                            Edit: Now they can openly do it in the bathrooms during lunch.

                            It was one of the big arguments against legalization though, selling it legally would lead to rampant and widespread use...

                            Actually the opposite. Drugs go down in use when legalized. That's specifically why Holland keeps in legalized, they actually said "we won't outlaw it because we don't want the rampant drug use like in the US." Everyone knows that by making marijuana illegal CREATES the drug pusher culture. You only have strong addiction problems in places where the drugs are illegal. Once legal, it never goes away, but goes way down. That's very well known. That's why the "war on drugs" is often seen as being paid for by the drug lords to keep their businesses going. It's actually government corruption, waging a fake fight to enable addiction to keep the drug lords well funded.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @coliver It's legal now... No need to do it under the bleachers after school.

                              Edit: Now they can openly do it in the bathrooms during lunch.

                              It was one of the big arguments against legalization though, selling it legally would lead to rampant and widespread use...

                              Actually the opposite. Drugs go down in use when legalized. That's specifically why Holland keeps in legalized, they actually said "we won't outlaw it because we don't want the rampant drug use like in the US." Everyone knows that by making marijuana illegal CREATES the drug pusher culture. You only have strong addiction problems in places where the drugs are illegal. Once legal, it never goes away, but goes way down. That's very well known. That's why the "war on drugs" is often seen as being paid for by the drug lords to keep their businesses going. It's actually government corruption, waging a fake fight to enable addiction to keep the drug lords well funded.

                              Agreed, completely. We've had this conversation before on here. It was an argument against legalization that didn't have any merit but another one of those, "We don't care about the facts, think of the children!" ploys.

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                              • tonyshowoffT
                                tonyshowoff @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by tonyshowoff

                                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @coliver It's legal now... No need to do it under the bleachers after school.

                                Edit: Now they can openly do it in the bathrooms during lunch.

                                It was one of the big arguments against legalization though, selling it legally would lead to rampant and widespread use...

                                Actually the opposite. Drugs go down in use when legalized. That's specifically why Holland keeps in legalized, they actually said "we won't outlaw it because we don't want the rampant drug use like in the US." Everyone knows that by making marijuana illegal CREATES the drug pusher culture. You only have strong addiction problems in places where the drugs are illegal. Once legal, it never goes away, but goes way down. That's very well known. That's why the "war on drugs" is often seen as being paid for by the drug lords to keep their businesses going. It's actually government corruption, waging a fake fight to enable addiction to keep the drug lords well funded.

                                I think though one thing people aren't counting on is the 100% sales tax on it causes the price to stay higher than some black market prices and thus there's still black market access to it, which isn't the case elsewhere in the world, but is in Colorado.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @tonyshowoff
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                                  @tonyshowoff said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  I think though one thing people aren't counting on is the 100% sales tax on it causes the price to stay higher than some black market prices and thus there's still black market access to it, which isn't the case elsewhere in the world, but is in Colorado.

                                  That's important, too. It actually keeps the price higher than the black market does. You start having store fronts and create lots of good jobs, too.

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                                  • tonyshowoffT
                                    tonyshowoff
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                                    I just find self-reported surveys of any sort to really be wholly unscientific. I hate them!

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @tonyshowoff
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                                      @tonyshowoff said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      I just find self-reported surveys of any sort to really be wholly unscientific. I hate them!

                                      Yes, survey are crap. We should take a poll to see who likes them.

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                                      • RojoLocoR
                                        RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @tonyshowoff said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        I just find self-reported surveys of any sort to really be wholly unscientific. I hate them!

                                        Yes, survey are crap. We should take a poll to see who likes them.

                                        I know a site that will let you create a survey...

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
                                          last edited by

                                          @RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @tonyshowoff said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          I just find self-reported surveys of any sort to really be wholly unscientific. I hate them!

                                          Yes, survey are crap. We should take a poll to see who likes them.

                                          I know a site that will let you create a survey...

                                          Good idea!

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                                          • tonyshowoffT
                                            tonyshowoff @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by tonyshowoff

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @tonyshowoff said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            I just find self-reported surveys of any sort to really be wholly unscientific. I hate them!

                                            Yes, survey are crap. We should take a poll to see who likes them.

                                            This is me when I read about a new "study" which proves some diet is better than the other because of self-reported survey data based upon what people think about themselves:

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                                            And that's true with other surveys similar to that as well, people are so horribly bad at reporting information about themselves, I can never take it seriously no matter what it's reporting, unless we're reporting on the kind of people who respond to surveys.

                                            But diets and food are the worst, just ask any morbidly obese person, almost all will tell you they "don't actually eat that much" (ironic survey). People just aren't good at it.

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