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    • Deleted74295D
      Deleted74295 Banned @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

      Did you ever find a good option for this? Or was this just one of those times to give up?

      It died a death, Install a Windows VM to do this instead which has a lot more apps to do this kind of thing. Even silly OSx can do this so I was really surprised I could not find any Linuxy ways of doing it. Running on a Windows 10 VM at the moment working away at triple the price, not ideal but got it working.

      @thwr said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

      What about http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix%3AModule-dummy ?

      In reading the docs, that sounds like it relies on a physical sound card being present, even at the motherboard level, most of these projects I've tried have needed some kind of physical audio interface to be present.

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      • thwrT
        thwr @Deleted74295
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        @Breffni-Potter Are you sure? snd-dummy represents a sound card on its own, with no specific hardware behind. I have no real use case for this, but this should work out of the box. If not, I may take a look into it.

        The idea behind is simple:
        snd-dummy represents the first (and only) soundcard. ALSA (or more likely PulseAudio) will "route" everything through it. From there, you should be able to grab a stream.

        https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2119648

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        • Deleted74295D
          Deleted74295 Banned @thwr
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          @thwr said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

          @Breffni-Potter Are you sure? snd-dummy represents a sound card on its own, with no specific hardware behind. I have no real use case for this, but this should work out of the box. If not, I may take a look into it.

          The idea behind is simple:
          snd-dummy represents the first (and only) soundcard. ALSA (or more likely PulseAudio) will "route" everything through it. From there, you should be able to grab a stream.

          https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2119648

          I gave up on that linux VM so can't test it but I tried many things under the sun involving ALSA and PulseAudio, I had a real Linux brain box helping me out with it and neither of us could get it working after a week of trying different things out.

          If it works in testing by someone else, that'll be nice to know how to get it working.

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          • thwrT
            thwr @Deleted74295
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            @Breffni-Potter said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

            I gave up on that linux VM so can't test it but I tried many things under the sun involving ALSA and PulseAudio, I had a real Linux brain box helping me out with it and neither of us could get it working after a week of trying different things out.

            So that's not urgent at all. You made me curious, so maybe I'll take a look into it during the next few days 😉

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            • Deleted74295D
              Deleted74295 Banned @thwr
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              @thwr said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

              @Breffni-Potter said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

              I gave up on that linux VM so can't test it but I tried many things under the sun involving ALSA and PulseAudio, I had a real Linux brain box helping me out with it and neither of us could get it working after a week of trying different things out.

              So that's not urgent at all. You made me curious, so maybe I'll take a look into it during the next few days 😉

              Oh it was urgent 3 months ago 🙂

              The fix was to bite the bullet and pay triple the cost for a Windows VM to do it.

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              • thwrT
                thwr
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                Hehe. Is Ubuntu Server 16.04 ok for you?

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                • Deleted74295D
                  Deleted74295 Banned @thwr
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                  @thwr said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                  Hehe. Is Ubuntu Server 16.04 ok for you?

                  Sure, whenever really, no rush.

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                  • chrisnbrooksC
                    chrisnbrooks @thwr
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                    @thwr said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:
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                    https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2119648

                    Good read! Wish I still had my blade in Chicago so I could test this out just for gits and shiggles.
                    Maybe finally time to renew that contract ... this time sans hosting clients.

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                    • thwrT
                      thwr @chrisnbrooks
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                      @chrisnbrooks said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                      @thwr said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:
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                      https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2119648

                      Good read! Wish I still had my blade in Chicago so I could test this out just for gits and shiggles.
                      Maybe finally time to renew that contract ... this time sans hosting clients.

                      Just create a VM with no sound hardware 😉

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                      • chrisnbrooksC
                        chrisnbrooks @thwr
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                        @thwr said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                        @chrisnbrooks said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                        @thwr said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:
                        ...
                        Maybe finally time to renew that contract ... this time sans hosting clients.

                        Just create a VM with no sound hardware 😉

                        Hah! Nooo... Just take my money!!!

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                        • thwrT
                          thwr
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                          Ok, got it. It's actually pretty simple. Tried this in a fresh new Ubuntu 16.04.1 VM on VirtualBox. The VM does not have sound hardware (disabled in VirtualBox).
                          I had some problems with the recorded file, there was just white noise. Turned out something went wrong when I tried to record the output using arecord and pipe that to lame to get a MP3. Switched to WAV instead.

                          Preparations:

                          sudo modprobe snd-aloop
                          sudo apt-get install alsa
                          

                          Check devices:

                          tw@ubuntu-snddummy:~$ sudo aplay -l
                          **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
                          Home directory not accessible: Permission denied
                          card 0: Loopback [Loopback], device 0: Loopback PCM [Loopback PCM]
                            Subdevices: 7/8
                            Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
                            Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
                            Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
                            Subdevice #3: subdevice #3
                            Subdevice #4: subdevice #4
                            Subdevice #5: subdevice #5
                            Subdevice #6: subdevice #6
                            Subdevice #7: subdevice #7
                          card 0: Loopback [Loopback], device 1: Loopback PCM [Loopback PCM]
                            Subdevices: 8/8
                            Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
                            Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
                            Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
                            Subdevice #3: subdevice #3
                            Subdevice #4: subdevice #4
                            Subdevice #5: subdevice #5
                            Subdevice #6: subdevice #6
                            Subdevice #7: subdevice #7
                          tw@ubuntu-snddummy:~$
                          

                          Play something

                          sudo aplay -D hw:0,0,0 sample.wav
                          Playing WAVE 'sample.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
                          

                          Record (different shell)

                          sudo arecord -D hw:0,1,0 -f cd record.wav
                          

                          PS: Did everything as root to avoid any permission issues.

                          Source:
                          http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-aloop

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                          • Deleted74295D
                            Deleted74295 Banned
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                            Nice work, really good find.

                            Will remember to try this in the future.

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                            • thwrT
                              thwr
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                              Thanks, I was just curious 😉 Please report back if that works for you.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                This got way more popular than I had been expecting it to be!

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                                • thwrT
                                  thwr @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                                  This got way more popular than I had been expecting it to be!

                                  Now we just need to find use-cases for this 😉

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @thwr
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                                    @thwr said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                                    This got way more popular than I had been expecting it to be!

                                    Now we just need to find use-cases for this 😉

                                    That's the bigger challenge 😉

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1 @thwr
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                                      @thwr said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                                      This got way more popular than I had been expecting it to be!

                                      Now we just need to find use-cases for this 😉

                                      Back in the late 90s, a group of ~50 engineers and FEA people would have loved to have that available. We could do 3D remotely, but sound without an audio card, not so much.

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