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    • Deleted74295D
      Deleted74295 Banned
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      Oh well. One of those times when Mac & Windows have lots of availability for something.

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      • scottalanmillerS
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        Did you ever find a good option for this? Or was this just one of those times to give up?

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        • thwrT
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          What about http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix%3AModule-dummy ?

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          • Deleted74295D
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            @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

            Did you ever find a good option for this? Or was this just one of those times to give up?

            It died a death, Install a Windows VM to do this instead which has a lot more apps to do this kind of thing. Even silly OSx can do this so I was really surprised I could not find any Linuxy ways of doing it. Running on a Windows 10 VM at the moment working away at triple the price, not ideal but got it working.

            @thwr said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

            What about http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix%3AModule-dummy ?

            In reading the docs, that sounds like it relies on a physical sound card being present, even at the motherboard level, most of these projects I've tried have needed some kind of physical audio interface to be present.

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            • thwrT
              thwr @Deleted74295
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              @Breffni-Potter Are you sure? snd-dummy represents a sound card on its own, with no specific hardware behind. I have no real use case for this, but this should work out of the box. If not, I may take a look into it.

              The idea behind is simple:
              snd-dummy represents the first (and only) soundcard. ALSA (or more likely PulseAudio) will "route" everything through it. From there, you should be able to grab a stream.

              https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2119648

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              • Deleted74295D
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                @thwr said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                @Breffni-Potter Are you sure? snd-dummy represents a sound card on its own, with no specific hardware behind. I have no real use case for this, but this should work out of the box. If not, I may take a look into it.

                The idea behind is simple:
                snd-dummy represents the first (and only) soundcard. ALSA (or more likely PulseAudio) will "route" everything through it. From there, you should be able to grab a stream.

                https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2119648

                I gave up on that linux VM so can't test it but I tried many things under the sun involving ALSA and PulseAudio, I had a real Linux brain box helping me out with it and neither of us could get it working after a week of trying different things out.

                If it works in testing by someone else, that'll be nice to know how to get it working.

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                • thwrT
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                  @Breffni-Potter said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                  I gave up on that linux VM so can't test it but I tried many things under the sun involving ALSA and PulseAudio, I had a real Linux brain box helping me out with it and neither of us could get it working after a week of trying different things out.

                  So that's not urgent at all. You made me curious, so maybe I'll take a look into it during the next few days 😉

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                  • Deleted74295D
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                    @thwr said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                    @Breffni-Potter said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                    I gave up on that linux VM so can't test it but I tried many things under the sun involving ALSA and PulseAudio, I had a real Linux brain box helping me out with it and neither of us could get it working after a week of trying different things out.

                    So that's not urgent at all. You made me curious, so maybe I'll take a look into it during the next few days 😉

                    Oh it was urgent 3 months ago 🙂

                    The fix was to bite the bullet and pay triple the cost for a Windows VM to do it.

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                    • thwrT
                      thwr
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                      Hehe. Is Ubuntu Server 16.04 ok for you?

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                      • Deleted74295D
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                        @thwr said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                        Hehe. Is Ubuntu Server 16.04 ok for you?

                        Sure, whenever really, no rush.

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                        • chrisnbrooksC
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                          @thwr said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:
                          ...

                          https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2119648

                          Good read! Wish I still had my blade in Chicago so I could test this out just for gits and shiggles.
                          Maybe finally time to renew that contract ... this time sans hosting clients.

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                          • thwrT
                            thwr @chrisnbrooks
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                            @chrisnbrooks said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                            @thwr said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:
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                            https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2119648

                            Good read! Wish I still had my blade in Chicago so I could test this out just for gits and shiggles.
                            Maybe finally time to renew that contract ... this time sans hosting clients.

                            Just create a VM with no sound hardware 😉

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                            • chrisnbrooksC
                              chrisnbrooks @thwr
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                              @thwr said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                              @chrisnbrooks said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                              @thwr said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:
                              ...
                              Maybe finally time to renew that contract ... this time sans hosting clients.

                              Just create a VM with no sound hardware 😉

                              Hah! Nooo... Just take my money!!!

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                              • thwrT
                                thwr
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                                Ok, got it. It's actually pretty simple. Tried this in a fresh new Ubuntu 16.04.1 VM on VirtualBox. The VM does not have sound hardware (disabled in VirtualBox).
                                I had some problems with the recorded file, there was just white noise. Turned out something went wrong when I tried to record the output using arecord and pipe that to lame to get a MP3. Switched to WAV instead.

                                Preparations:

                                sudo modprobe snd-aloop
                                sudo apt-get install alsa
                                

                                Check devices:

                                tw@ubuntu-snddummy:~$ sudo aplay -l
                                **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
                                Home directory not accessible: Permission denied
                                card 0: Loopback [Loopback], device 0: Loopback PCM [Loopback PCM]
                                  Subdevices: 7/8
                                  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
                                  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
                                  Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
                                  Subdevice #3: subdevice #3
                                  Subdevice #4: subdevice #4
                                  Subdevice #5: subdevice #5
                                  Subdevice #6: subdevice #6
                                  Subdevice #7: subdevice #7
                                card 0: Loopback [Loopback], device 1: Loopback PCM [Loopback PCM]
                                  Subdevices: 8/8
                                  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
                                  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
                                  Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
                                  Subdevice #3: subdevice #3
                                  Subdevice #4: subdevice #4
                                  Subdevice #5: subdevice #5
                                  Subdevice #6: subdevice #6
                                  Subdevice #7: subdevice #7
                                tw@ubuntu-snddummy:~$
                                

                                Play something

                                sudo aplay -D hw:0,0,0 sample.wav
                                Playing WAVE 'sample.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
                                

                                Record (different shell)

                                sudo arecord -D hw:0,1,0 -f cd record.wav
                                

                                PS: Did everything as root to avoid any permission issues.

                                Source:
                                http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-aloop

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                                • Deleted74295D
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                                  Nice work, really good find.

                                  Will remember to try this in the future.

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                                  • thwrT
                                    thwr
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                                    Thanks, I was just curious 😉 Please report back if that works for you.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
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                                      This got way more popular than I had been expecting it to be!

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                                      • thwrT
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                                        This got way more popular than I had been expecting it to be!

                                        Now we just need to find use-cases for this 😉

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
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                                          @thwr said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                                          This got way more popular than I had been expecting it to be!

                                          Now we just need to find use-cases for this 😉

                                          That's the bigger challenge 😉

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                                          • travisdh1T
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                                            @thwr said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu Server - Virtual Sound Card:

                                            This got way more popular than I had been expecting it to be!

                                            Now we just need to find use-cases for this 😉

                                            Back in the late 90s, a group of ~50 engineers and FEA people would have loved to have that available. We could do 3D remotely, but sound without an audio card, not so much.

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