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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @Veet
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      @Veet said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

      @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

      @Veet said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

      @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

      I work 24/7. I may only average 6 to 8 hours per day and 42 hours per week. But those hours are spread out over all 24 hours of the day and all 7 days of the week.
      Any employee of ours will be expected to do the same.

      In return what can an employee expect from the organization ?

      Depending on skill, an hourly rate between $30 and $50.

      Seriously ? Is that all an employee can expect from your company ? An hourly wage ? pity ...

      What do you want? All the soft things? They are in the rate.
      You want paid vacation? I can do that, but then I'll drop your hourly rate accordingly. A little basic math will show that you can easily come out ahead by taking the higher hourly rate instead. Save up your money yourself for your time off. If you cannot budget, then that is not my problem.

      Basically, think of every little soft add on that you want. for every $100/month it costs that comes out to ~$0.63 per hour. Insurance, paid time off, etc.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @wirestyle22
        last edited by

        @wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

        @Veet said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

        @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

        @Veet said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

        @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

        I work 24/7. I may only average 6 to 8 hours per day and 42 hours per week. But those hours are spread out over all 24 hours of the day and all 7 days of the week.
        Any employee of ours will be expected to do the same.

        In return what can an employee expect from the organization ?

        Depending on skill, an hourly rate between $30 and $50.

        Seriously ? Is that all an employee can expect from your company ? An hourly wage ? pity ...

        I'm sure they have healthcare, dental, vision, 401k, etc too. What is to be expected?

        Actually, nope nothing except an IRA match. Everything else is in the rate.

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          Veet @wirestyle22
          last edited by

          @wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

          @Veet said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

          @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

          @Veet said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

          @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

          I work 24/7. I may only average 6 to 8 hours per day and 42 hours per week. But those hours are spread out over all 24 hours of the day and all 7 days of the week.
          Any employee of ours will be expected to do the same.

          In return what can an employee expect from the organization ?

          Depending on skill, an hourly rate between $30 and $50.

          Seriously ? Is that all an employee can expect from your company ? An hourly wage ? pity ...

          I'm sure they have healthcare, dental, vision, 401k, etc too. What is to be expected?

          meh ....

          What about, in terms of Quality Of Life ? Job Satisfaction ? Personal/Professional enrichment ?

          btw, Quality of Life is not to be confused with Packet life or Quality of Service .. for all you "live IT" , dedicated , 24x7 available, type of IT guy ...

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          • david.wieseD
            david.wiese @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @JaredBusch

            @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

            @wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

            @Veet said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

            @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

            @Veet said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

            @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

            I work 24/7. I may only average 6 to 8 hours per day and 42 hours per week. But those hours are spread out over all 24 hours of the day and all 7 days of the week.
            Any employee of ours will be expected to do the same.

            In return what can an employee expect from the organization ?

            Depending on skill, an hourly rate between $30 and $50.

            Seriously ? Is that all an employee can expect from your company ? An hourly wage ? pity ...

            I'm sure they have healthcare, dental, vision, 401k, etc too. What is to be expected?

            Actually, nope nothing except an IRA match. Everything else is in the rate.

            wow, just wow. I would never work for you then if this is the attitude you have towards your employees.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @david.wiese
              last edited by

              @david.wiese said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

              @JaredBusch

              @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

              @wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

              @Veet said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

              @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

              @Veet said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

              @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

              I work 24/7. I may only average 6 to 8 hours per day and 42 hours per week. But those hours are spread out over all 24 hours of the day and all 7 days of the week.
              Any employee of ours will be expected to do the same.

              In return what can an employee expect from the organization ?

              Depending on skill, an hourly rate between $30 and $50.

              Seriously ? Is that all an employee can expect from your company ? An hourly wage ? pity ...

              I'm sure they have healthcare, dental, vision, 401k, etc too. What is to be expected?

              Actually, nope nothing except an IRA match. Everything else is in the rate.

              wow, just wow. I would never work for you then if this is the attitude you have towards your employees.

              Break out of your 8-5 and 2 weeks vacation mentality. It is amazingly refreshing.

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              • RojoLocoR
                RojoLoco @JaredBusch
                last edited by

                @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                @RojoLoco said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                @david.wiese said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                @JaredBusch

                @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                I will add to this discussion with this.

                When I look to hire another person for @Bundy-Associates that I will most certainly be looking for the self motivated person that is going to be able to work in a very atypical environment compared to most places.

                Someone with a lab environment that teaches themselves outside of work will most certainly rank over some 8-5 working Joe. @david-wiese and @RojoLoco will most certainly not be employed by me.

                I work 24/7. I may only average 6 to 8 hours per day and 42 hours per week. But those hours are spread out over all 24 hours of the day and all 7 days of the week.

                Any employee of ours will be expected to do the same.

                I personally wouldn't want to work for an organization like that. I value my time and would not be expected to work like that. That sounds horrible. I guess for positions like that it takes a special kind of person that has no life outside of the job.

                Also that description right there is what is wrong with the American culture. To much emphasis put on work and not enough put on life outside of it. Like I have already stated, I work to live, not live to work.

                Read the reply I made about about math and hours.

                How can one expect to enjoy free time when the employer expects them to be on call 24/7??? Even at 42 hours a week, the expectation of 'round the clock availability kinda negates any off the clock planning. When do your employees get a break / vacation / whatever you want to call it?

                Whenever they want. Just had one of our guys gone for 3 weeks to South Africa.

                Unpaid? Lame. What if I wanted to take an impromptu weekend trip, guess that's out of the question since I'm on call 25/8. Plus, from reading your posts here, I already knew I'd never want to work for you.

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                • RojoLocoR
                  RojoLoco @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                  @david.wiese said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                  @JaredBusch

                  @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                  @Veet said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                  @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                  @Veet said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                  @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                  I work 24/7. I may only average 6 to 8 hours per day and 42 hours per week. But those hours are spread out over all 24 hours of the day and all 7 days of the week.
                  Any employee of ours will be expected to do the same.

                  In return what can an employee expect from the organization ?

                  Depending on skill, an hourly rate between $30 and $50.

                  Seriously ? Is that all an employee can expect from your company ? An hourly wage ? pity ...

                  I'm sure they have healthcare, dental, vision, 401k, etc too. What is to be expected?

                  Actually, nope nothing except an IRA match. Everything else is in the rate.

                  wow, just wow. I would never work for you then if this is the attitude you have towards your employees.

                  Break out of your 8-5 and 2 weeks vacation mentality. It is amazingly refreshing.

                  Why is it so wrong to want to know which 40-ish hours you'll be working each week? Knowing when your time off is, that's refreshing. Knowing that I'm not expected to jump up and run at 3am on a weekend is refreshing. Constant on-call hell (with no benefits) for a tiny bit more than I make is not.

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22 @RojoLoco
                    last edited by wirestyle22

                    @RojoLoco said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                    @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                    @david.wiese said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                    @JaredBusch

                    @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                    @wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                    @Veet said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                    @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                    @Veet said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                    @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                    I work 24/7. I may only average 6 to 8 hours per day and 42 hours per week. But those hours are spread out over all 24 hours of the day and all 7 days of the week.
                    Any employee of ours will be expected to do the same.

                    In return what can an employee expect from the organization ?

                    Depending on skill, an hourly rate between $30 and $50.

                    Seriously ? Is that all an employee can expect from your company ? An hourly wage ? pity ...

                    I'm sure they have healthcare, dental, vision, 401k, etc too. What is to be expected?

                    Actually, nope nothing except an IRA match. Everything else is in the rate.

                    wow, just wow. I would never work for you then if this is the attitude you have towards your employees.

                    Break out of your 8-5 and 2 weeks vacation mentality. It is amazingly refreshing.

                    Why is it so wrong to want to know which 40-ish hours you'll be working each week? Knowing when your time off is, that's refreshing. Knowing that I'm not expected to jump up and run at 3am on a weekend is refreshing. Constant on-call hell (with no benefits) for a tiny bit more than I make is not.

                    It's not wrong. Different jobs work for different people. I wouldn't do that either personally. I wouldn't judge someone for taking it either though.

                    EDIT: I stand corrected. I also made the assumption it was on call.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @RojoLoco
                      last edited by JaredBusch

                      @RojoLoco said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                      @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                      @david.wiese said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                      @JaredBusch

                      @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                      @wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                      @Veet said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                      @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                      @Veet said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                      @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                      I work 24/7. I may only average 6 to 8 hours per day and 42 hours per week. But those hours are spread out over all 24 hours of the day and all 7 days of the week.
                      Any employee of ours will be expected to do the same.

                      In return what can an employee expect from the organization ?

                      Depending on skill, an hourly rate between $30 and $50.

                      Seriously ? Is that all an employee can expect from your company ? An hourly wage ? pity ...

                      I'm sure they have healthcare, dental, vision, 401k, etc too. What is to be expected?

                      Actually, nope nothing except an IRA match. Everything else is in the rate.

                      wow, just wow. I would never work for you then if this is the attitude you have towards your employees.

                      Break out of your 8-5 and 2 weeks vacation mentality. It is amazingly refreshing.

                      Why is it so wrong to want to know which 40-ish hours you'll be working each week? Knowing when your time off is, that's refreshing. Knowing that I'm not expected to jump up and run at 3am on a weekend is refreshing. Constant on-call hell (with no benefits) for a tiny bit more than I make is not.

                      Who said it was on call? We set our schedules how we want.

                      My normal scheduled availability is 09:00 until about 11:30. I return to work around 14:00 and work until 18:00. But then I usually take an hour or so break in the middle of that afternoon when the kids come home. Every couple of nights there is typically a number of after hours work needed to fill in my average 42 hour week.

                      I usually end up not working much on either Thursdays or Fridays most weeks because I schedule windows server updates and reboots for the weekends. If I don't want to do it on a weekend, I will plan them ahead for evenings.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @wirestyle22
                        last edited by

                        @wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                        @RojoLoco said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                        @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                        @david.wiese said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                        @JaredBusch

                        @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                        @Veet said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                        @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                        @Veet said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                        @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                        I work 24/7. I may only average 6 to 8 hours per day and 42 hours per week. But those hours are spread out over all 24 hours of the day and all 7 days of the week.
                        Any employee of ours will be expected to do the same.

                        In return what can an employee expect from the organization ?

                        Depending on skill, an hourly rate between $30 and $50.

                        Seriously ? Is that all an employee can expect from your company ? An hourly wage ? pity ...

                        I'm sure they have healthcare, dental, vision, 401k, etc too. What is to be expected?

                        Actually, nope nothing except an IRA match. Everything else is in the rate.

                        wow, just wow. I would never work for you then if this is the attitude you have towards your employees.

                        Break out of your 8-5 and 2 weeks vacation mentality. It is amazingly refreshing.

                        Why is it so wrong to want to know which 40-ish hours you'll be working each week? Knowing when your time off is, that's refreshing. Knowing that I'm not expected to jump up and run at 3am on a weekend is refreshing. Constant on-call hell (with no benefits) for a tiny bit more than I make is not.

                        It's not wrong. Different jobs work for different people. I wouldn't do that either personally. I wouldn't judge someone for taking it either though.

                        It is called flexibility.

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                          @RojoLoco said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                          @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                          @david.wiese said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                          @JaredBusch

                          @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                          @Veet said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                          @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                          @Veet said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                          @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                          I work 24/7. I may only average 6 to 8 hours per day and 42 hours per week. But those hours are spread out over all 24 hours of the day and all 7 days of the week.
                          Any employee of ours will be expected to do the same.

                          In return what can an employee expect from the organization ?

                          Depending on skill, an hourly rate between $30 and $50.

                          Seriously ? Is that all an employee can expect from your company ? An hourly wage ? pity ...

                          I'm sure they have healthcare, dental, vision, 401k, etc too. What is to be expected?

                          Actually, nope nothing except an IRA match. Everything else is in the rate.

                          wow, just wow. I would never work for you then if this is the attitude you have towards your employees.

                          Break out of your 8-5 and 2 weeks vacation mentality. It is amazingly refreshing.

                          Why is it so wrong to want to know which 40-ish hours you'll be working each week? Knowing when your time off is, that's refreshing. Knowing that I'm not expected to jump up and run at 3am on a weekend is refreshing. Constant on-call hell (with no benefits) for a tiny bit more than I make is not.

                          It's not wrong. Different jobs work for different people. I wouldn't do that either personally. I wouldn't judge someone for taking it either though.

                          It is called flexibility.

                          I made an incorrect assumption.

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                          • alex.olynykA
                            alex.olynyk
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                            I would hire someone if they didnt have a home lab.
                            Oops...Sorry off topic.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
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                              Regarding paid time off. I get $2/hour more for not having 80 hours of PTO.

                              If my rate was $30, then in a 2087 hour year I would earn $62,610 with $2,400 of that being the 80 hours of PTO. So that means I was paid $60,210 for the 2007 worked hours.

                              So making $2 more means a rate of $32 in a 2007 hour year (assuming unpaid 80 hours were taken) means I was paid $64,224.

                              That is $1,614 more than the full 2087 hour with PTO $30 wage.

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                                last edited by wirestyle22

                                @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                                Regarding paid time off. I get $2/hour more for not having 80 hours of PTO.

                                If my rate was $30, then in a 2087 hour year I would earn $62,610 with $2,400 of that being the 80 hours of PTO. So that means I was paid $60,210 for the 2007 worked hours.

                                So making $2 more means a rate of $32 in a 2007 hour year (assuming unpaid 80 hours were taken) means I was paid $64,224.

                                That is $1,614 more than the full 2087 hour with PTO $30 wage.

                                What about the increased costs of paying for health insurance, vision and dental though? I guess they are somewhat supplemented by that $1614, but that is a considerable amount of money.

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                                • david.wieseD
                                  david.wiese @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @JaredBusch

                                  @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                                  Regarding paid time off. I get $2/hour more for not having 80 hours of PTO.

                                  If my rate was $30, then in a 2087 hour year I would earn $62,610 with $2,400 of that being the 80 hours of PTO. So that means I was paid $60,210 for the 2007 worked hours.

                                  So making $2 more means a rate of $32 in a 2007 hour year (assuming unpaid 80 hours were taken) means I was paid $64,224.

                                  That is $1,614 more than the full 2087 hour with PTO $30 wage.

                                  i'll take a $1600 hit for having my nights and weekends and not being on call 24/7

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @david.wiese
                                    last edited by wirestyle22

                                    @david.wiese said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                                    @JaredBusch

                                    @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                                    Regarding paid time off. I get $2/hour more for not having 80 hours of PTO.

                                    If my rate was $30, then in a 2087 hour year I would earn $62,610 with $2,400 of that being the 80 hours of PTO. So that means I was paid $60,210 for the 2007 worked hours.

                                    So making $2 more means a rate of $32 in a 2007 hour year (assuming unpaid 80 hours were taken) means I was paid $64,224.

                                    That is $1,614 more than the full 2087 hour with PTO $30 wage.

                                    i'll take a $1600 hit for having my nights and weekends and not being on call 24/7

                                    He's not on call. He explained that before. I made the same assumption.

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                                    • david.wieseD
                                      david.wiese @wirestyle22
                                      last edited by

                                      @wirestyle22

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                                      @david.wiese said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                                      @JaredBusch

                                      @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                                      Regarding paid time off. I get $2/hour more for not having 80 hours of PTO.

                                      If my rate was $30, then in a 2087 hour year I would earn $62,610 with $2,400 of that being the 80 hours of PTO. So that means I was paid $60,210 for the 2007 worked hours.

                                      So making $2 more means a rate of $32 in a 2007 hour year (assuming unpaid 80 hours were taken) means I was paid $64,224.

                                      That is $1,614 more than the full 2087 hour with PTO $30 wage.

                                      i'll take a $1600 hit for having my nights and weekends and not being on call 24/7

                                      He's not on call. He explained that before. I made the same assumption.

                                      if you are working on weekends updating servers then you are on call (in my opinion). On call to me means you work when the client has time for you to work. IE you put your life on hold for the client.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @wirestyle22
                                        last edited by

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                                        Regarding paid time off. I get $2/hour more for not having 80 hours of PTO.

                                        If my rate was $30, then in a 2087 hour year I would earn $62,610 with $2,400 of that being the 80 hours of PTO. So that means I was paid $60,210 for the 2007 worked hours.

                                        So making $2 more means a rate of $32 in a 2007 hour year (assuming unpaid 80 hours were taken) means I was paid $64,224.

                                        That is $1,614 more than the full 2087 hour with PTO $30 wage.

                                        What about the increased costs of paying for health insurance, vision and dental though? I guess they are somewhat supplemented by that $1614, but that is a considerable amount of money.

                                        That is a different part of the equation. I was strictly comparing the difference in asking for PTO.

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22 @david.wiese
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                                          @david.wiese said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                                          @wirestyle22

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                                          @david.wiese said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                                          @JaredBusch

                                          @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                                          Regarding paid time off. I get $2/hour more for not having 80 hours of PTO.

                                          If my rate was $30, then in a 2087 hour year I would earn $62,610 with $2,400 of that being the 80 hours of PTO. So that means I was paid $60,210 for the 2007 worked hours.

                                          So making $2 more means a rate of $32 in a 2007 hour year (assuming unpaid 80 hours were taken) means I was paid $64,224.

                                          That is $1,614 more than the full 2087 hour with PTO $30 wage.

                                          i'll take a $1600 hit for having my nights and weekends and not being on call 24/7

                                          He's not on call. He explained that before. I made the same assumption.

                                          if you are working on weekends updating servers then you are on call (in my opinion). On call to me means you work when the client has time for you to work. IE you put your life on hold for the client.

                                          On call to me is unscheduled work

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @wirestyle22
                                            last edited by

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                                            @david.wiese said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                                            @wirestyle22

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                                            @david.wiese said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                                            @JaredBusch

                                            @JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:

                                            Regarding paid time off. I get $2/hour more for not having 80 hours of PTO.

                                            If my rate was $30, then in a 2087 hour year I would earn $62,610 with $2,400 of that being the 80 hours of PTO. So that means I was paid $60,210 for the 2007 worked hours.

                                            So making $2 more means a rate of $32 in a 2007 hour year (assuming unpaid 80 hours were taken) means I was paid $64,224.

                                            That is $1,614 more than the full 2087 hour with PTO $30 wage.

                                            i'll take a $1600 hit for having my nights and weekends and not being on call 24/7

                                            He's not on call. He explained that before. I made the same assumption.

                                            if you are working on weekends updating servers then you are on call (in my opinion). On call to me means you work when the client has time for you to work. IE you put your life on hold for the client.

                                            On call to me is unscheduled work

                                            http://definitions.uslegal.com/o/on-call-employees/

                                            0_1470257135045_upload-8c0296cf-0f88-4090-9115-8ac341549319 Correct.

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