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    What You Need to Know About XenServer

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    • olivierO
      olivier
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      That sound really overcomplicated to serve just some ISOs. I wonder if I won't offer a "public" NFS in read only with most popular ISO, a kind of ISO as a service πŸ˜„

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        Francesco Provino @olivier
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        @olivier I think that the right way to provide a "templatized" VM is to customize a cloud OS image via libguestfs or similar tools, going through the whole installation process is just nonsense for VMs. Poor windows users…

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        • olivierO
          olivier @Francesco Provino
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          @Francesco-Provino Solution is creating a template with CloudInit process, then Xen Orchestra can do the rest. See https://xen-orchestra.com/blog/full-cloudinit-power-in-xenserver/

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill
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            My new take on XS is to not touch XS. It's like Fight Club.

            The easy way for ISOs I found was...

            a) set up a new Linux Mint VM
            b) set up an anonymous share
            c) add ISOs
            d) done

            Windows works, but it;s hard to do anonymous shares, I've always found. You could create a user, which I did initially, but I've since moved to a small Mint instance and haven't looked back.

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              Francesco Provino @olivier
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              @olivier or via cloudinit, exactly, I just forgot to add it.

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              • olivierO
                olivier @Francesco Provino
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                @Francesco-Provino said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                @olivier or via cloudinit, exactly, I just forgot to add it.

                The thing is we already have CloudInit support, so it would be a shame to not using it πŸ˜›

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                • olivierO
                  olivier @BRRABill
                  last edited by

                  @BRRABill said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                  My new take on XS is to not touch XS. It's like Fight Club.

                  The easy way for ISOs I found was...

                  a) set up a new Linux Mint VM
                  b) set up an anonymous share
                  c) add ISOs
                  d) done

                  Windows works, but it;s hard to do anonymous shares, I've always found. You could create a user, which I did initially, but I've since moved to a small Mint instance and haven't looked back.

                  That's a way to do it also yes. In general, I've got always a physical machine (eg for backup) with enough space to do that. Doesn't require much bandwidth and power to simply share ISOs.

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22
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                    Thoughts @scottalanmiller ?

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @olivier
                      last edited by

                      @olivier said

                      That's a way to do it also yes. In general, I've got always a physical machine (eg for backup) with enough space to do that. Doesn't require much bandwidth and power to simply share ISOs.

                      Yeah, just giving options. πŸ™‚

                      There are many. πŸ™‚

                      Anything that can share files would work. I just find sharing files anonymously through Windows maddening.

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                      • olivierO
                        olivier @BRRABill
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                        @BRRABill said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                        @olivier said

                        That's a way to do it also yes. In general, I've got always a physical machine (eg for backup) with enough space to do that. Doesn't require much bandwidth and power to simply share ISOs.

                        Yeah, just giving options. πŸ™‚

                        There are many. πŸ™‚

                        Anything that can share files would work. I just find sharing files anonymously through Windows maddening.

                        I have no idea, last time I tried it was 10 years ago.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @olivier
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                          @olivier said

                          I have no idea, last time I tried it was 10 years ago.

                          It's probably why you moved on! πŸ˜‰

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22
                            last edited by wirestyle22

                            If I shared my SSD on my desktop how would I handle the permissions for mounting in XS? I did attempt this but it failed. Granted I had to leave immediately after and didnt get the chance to troubleshoot it.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @wirestyle22
                              last edited by BRRABill

                              @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                              If I shared my SSD on my desktop how would I handle the permissions for mounting? I did attempt this but it failed. Granted I had to leave immediately after and didnt get the chance to troubleshoot it.

                              You could create a local account on your machine, give it access to the shared directory, and use that when you mount from XS.

                              That's what I did initially.

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22 @BRRABill
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                                @BRRABill said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                If I shared my SSD on my desktop how would I handle the permissions for mounting? I did attempt this but it failed. Granted I had to leave immediately after and didnt get the chance to troubleshoot it.

                                You could create a local account on your machine, give it access to the shared directory, and use that when you mount from XS.

                                That's what I did initially.

                                I'll give this all a go when I get home and report back. Thanks everyone!

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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22
                                  last edited by wirestyle22

                                  Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre @wirestyle22
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                                    @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                    Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                    I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @dafyre
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                                      @dafyre said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                      Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                      I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

                                      Virtual?

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @wirestyle22
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                                        @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                        @dafyre said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                        Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                        I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

                                        Virtual?

                                        Always! You should have a reason to be physical otherwise virtual.

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre @wirestyle22
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                                          @wirestyle22 Sorry, yeah.

                                          Unless you're running a lot of heavily used VMs, a dual or quadcore CPU would be fine. My box at home runs a quad core cpu and has 5 or 6 VMs on it with no issues.

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                                          • wirestyle22W
                                            wirestyle22 @coliver
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                                            @coliver said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            @dafyre said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                            I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

                                            Virtual?

                                            Always! You should have a reason to be physical otherwise virtual.

                                            Just for my own knowledge, what would be a good reason to go physical? Just for a point of reference.

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