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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @olivier
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      @olivier said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

      @wirestyle22 If you made the wget with root, no problem, XAPI is running as root too (and default perms in here should be OK). So after you Wget is done, just ls to be sure your ISO is here. Then, rescan the SR with the appropriate interface (Xen Orchestra or XenCenter).

      I attempted a rescan with XC and nothing popped up. I'm not home right now to really go through it unfortunately. Maybe I'll configure remote access tonight so I can tinker. Everything for me currently is being run in root. Not trying to complicate my life too much yet πŸ˜„

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        Francesco Provino @wirestyle22
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        @wirestyle22 in truth, you can just create an LVM volume with a filesystem upon it, store the ISOs there and mount it as a SR. The real issue is that at the reboot XS7 will stop doing consistency check of LVM. That's totally repeatable.

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        • olivierO
          olivier
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          That sound really overcomplicated to serve just some ISOs. I wonder if I won't offer a "public" NFS in read only with most popular ISO, a kind of ISO as a service πŸ˜„

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            Francesco Provino @olivier
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            @olivier I think that the right way to provide a "templatized" VM is to customize a cloud OS image via libguestfs or similar tools, going through the whole installation process is just nonsense for VMs. Poor windows users…

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            • olivierO
              olivier @Francesco Provino
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              @Francesco-Provino Solution is creating a template with CloudInit process, then Xen Orchestra can do the rest. See https://xen-orchestra.com/blog/full-cloudinit-power-in-xenserver/

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill
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                My new take on XS is to not touch XS. It's like Fight Club.

                The easy way for ISOs I found was...

                a) set up a new Linux Mint VM
                b) set up an anonymous share
                c) add ISOs
                d) done

                Windows works, but it;s hard to do anonymous shares, I've always found. You could create a user, which I did initially, but I've since moved to a small Mint instance and haven't looked back.

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                  Francesco Provino @olivier
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                  @olivier or via cloudinit, exactly, I just forgot to add it.

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                  • olivierO
                    olivier @Francesco Provino
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                    @Francesco-Provino said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                    @olivier or via cloudinit, exactly, I just forgot to add it.

                    The thing is we already have CloudInit support, so it would be a shame to not using it πŸ˜›

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                    • olivierO
                      olivier @BRRABill
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                      @BRRABill said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                      My new take on XS is to not touch XS. It's like Fight Club.

                      The easy way for ISOs I found was...

                      a) set up a new Linux Mint VM
                      b) set up an anonymous share
                      c) add ISOs
                      d) done

                      Windows works, but it;s hard to do anonymous shares, I've always found. You could create a user, which I did initially, but I've since moved to a small Mint instance and haven't looked back.

                      That's a way to do it also yes. In general, I've got always a physical machine (eg for backup) with enough space to do that. Doesn't require much bandwidth and power to simply share ISOs.

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22
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                        Thoughts @scottalanmiller ?

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @olivier
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                          @olivier said

                          That's a way to do it also yes. In general, I've got always a physical machine (eg for backup) with enough space to do that. Doesn't require much bandwidth and power to simply share ISOs.

                          Yeah, just giving options. πŸ™‚

                          There are many. πŸ™‚

                          Anything that can share files would work. I just find sharing files anonymously through Windows maddening.

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                          • olivierO
                            olivier @BRRABill
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                            @BRRABill said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                            @olivier said

                            That's a way to do it also yes. In general, I've got always a physical machine (eg for backup) with enough space to do that. Doesn't require much bandwidth and power to simply share ISOs.

                            Yeah, just giving options. πŸ™‚

                            There are many. πŸ™‚

                            Anything that can share files would work. I just find sharing files anonymously through Windows maddening.

                            I have no idea, last time I tried it was 10 years ago.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @olivier
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                              @olivier said

                              I have no idea, last time I tried it was 10 years ago.

                              It's probably why you moved on! πŸ˜‰

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22
                                last edited by wirestyle22

                                If I shared my SSD on my desktop how would I handle the permissions for mounting in XS? I did attempt this but it failed. Granted I had to leave immediately after and didnt get the chance to troubleshoot it.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @wirestyle22
                                  last edited by BRRABill

                                  @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                  If I shared my SSD on my desktop how would I handle the permissions for mounting? I did attempt this but it failed. Granted I had to leave immediately after and didnt get the chance to troubleshoot it.

                                  You could create a local account on your machine, give it access to the shared directory, and use that when you mount from XS.

                                  That's what I did initially.

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @BRRABill
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                                    @BRRABill said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                    If I shared my SSD on my desktop how would I handle the permissions for mounting? I did attempt this but it failed. Granted I had to leave immediately after and didnt get the chance to troubleshoot it.

                                    You could create a local account on your machine, give it access to the shared directory, and use that when you mount from XS.

                                    That's what I did initially.

                                    I'll give this all a go when I get home and report back. Thanks everyone!

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22
                                      last edited by wirestyle22

                                      Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

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                                        dafyre @wirestyle22
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                                        @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                        Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                        I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22 @dafyre
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                                          @dafyre said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                          Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                          I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

                                          Virtual?

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @wirestyle22
                                            last edited by coliver

                                            @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            @dafyre said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                            I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

                                            Virtual?

                                            Always! You should have a reason to be physical otherwise virtual.

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