Unsolved Confused About XenOrchestra Backups
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Confused about xen-orchestra and backups.
I installed via Scotts script on a clean Ubuntu and that seemed to allow backups (all of them) but some failed. Thought it might be because I only gave XO 10GB and it couldn't backup as it ran out of soace before placing them on my NFS share (3TB).So I thought I would give the XOA a try - the free version - as it has the updater and when I go to backups it says I need Starter/Ent/Prem to do Delta backups? Is this the reason the source build won't work? I need the paid thingy??
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@hobbit666 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Confused about xen-orchestra and backups.
I installed via Scotts script on a clean Ubuntu and that seemed to allow backups (all of them) but some failed. Thought it might be because I only gave XO 10GB and it couldn't backup as it ran out of soace before placing them on my NFS share (3TB).So I thought I would give the XOA a try - the free version - as it has the updater and when I go to backups it says I need Starter/Ent/Prem to do Delta backups? Is this the reason the source build won't work? I need the paid thingy??
This may be worth its own thread.
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@hobbit666 said in Confused About XenOrchestra Backups:
So I thought I would give the XOA a try - the free version - as it has the updater and when I go to backups it says I need Starter/Ent/Prem to do Delta backups? Is this the reason the source build won't work? I need the paid thingy??
That XOA requires certain licensing levels is totally unrelated to the unlimited features of standard XenOrchestra. You never need a paid option with XO, ever. You certainly should get XOA and pay for support and help support the XO guys, yeah. And then you get full support from them and they'll get it working for you straight away.
But under no condition do you "need" to do that. XO is 100% free, open source with no pay to play features at all.
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@hobbit666 said in Confused About XenOrchestra Backups:
Confused about xen-orchestra and backups.
I installed via Scotts script on a clean Ubuntu and that seemed to allow backups (all of them) but some failed. Thought it might be because I only gave XO 10GB and it couldn't backup as it ran out of soace before placing them on my NFS share (3TB).So I thought I would give the XOA a try - the free version - as it has the updater and when I go to backups it says I need Starter/Ent/Prem to do Delta backups? Is this the reason the source build won't work? I need the paid thingy??
To get all the "enterprise" features in XenOrchestra you need to "build it from source". This basically just involves deploying it to a web server.
The XO Appliance is specifically designed so it is easy for XenOrchestra to support. So they charge you for the support cost and the convenience or having a pre-packaged appliance available.
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@hobbit666 said in Confused About XenOrchestra Backups:
Thought it might be because I only gave XO 10GB and it couldn't backup as it ran out of soace before placing them on my NFS share (3TB).
Did you try giving the VM more space? If that was the issue, just enlarging the filesystem would be the obvious fix. Were there any errors in the logs?
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It sounds as if you are attempting to backup to the XO local drive, and an NFS share.
The setup for XO is pretty straight forward. Install XO, attach an NFS share, create a backup job to target the NFS share.
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@DustinB3403 said in Confused About XenOrchestra Backups:
The setup for XO is pretty straight forward. Install XO, attach an NFS share, create a backup job to target the NFS share.
Is there any local caching of that data before it goes to the NFS share? Seems unlikely as NFS can mount as a local filesystem and push directly. But it might for performance reasons.
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What does sar on your XO server say about resources during the failure?
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@scottalanmiller said in Confused About XenOrchestra Backups:
@DustinB3403 said in Confused About XenOrchestra Backups:
The setup for XO is pretty straight forward. Install XO, attach an NFS share, create a backup job to target the NFS share.
Is there any local caching of that data before it goes to the NFS share? Seems unlikely as NFS can mount as a local filesystem and push directly. But it might for performance reasons.
Not that I am aware of, @olivier would be able to answer that question.
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Nope, no cache on our side.
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@olivier said in Confused About XenOrchestra Backups:
Nope, no cache on our side.
Where would he look to track down a backup failure?
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@scottalanmiller as usual, in
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@DustinB3403 said in Confused About XenOrchestra Backups:
The setup for XO is pretty straight forward. Install XO, attach an NFS share, create a backup job to target the NFS share.
What i did is install ubuntu 16 to the XenServer Local Storage a 1TB RAID, then in XO setup a "remote" of the NFS share on my WD4000 NAS. Did a test on a small VM (SnipeIT) and that went well. So created a new job and added all my VM's and they error'd the first didn't.
But also when i looked at the NAS folder there's nothing in there even if you go to XO restore it shows a restore point.
I'm off tomorrow so will play Wednesday and let you know what i find. Will do another new install with XO from sources.
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But after that i thought i would try the XOA and that's where i got confused as i tried a Delta Backup and it said i needed paid version lol.
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@hobbit666 Rather than creating the NFS share from within the VM, do so using the XO web console.
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@hobbit666 Just register for the free trial.
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One last problem can't seem to create backup jobs with Edge browser. Can't click the save button.
Works fine in Firefox and Chrome.
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@hobbit666 We are cutting Edge (pun intended).
Official support is for Chrome and FF. We don't have resources to validate on all browser. But, if the issue is well identified we can fix it (like we fixed Safari issue recently). If you have info in your browser console about the issue, paste it here
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Just checked and my first backups were all successful onto my NFS Share and I can see some folders there
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@hobbit666 said in Confused About XenOrchestra Backups:
Just checked and my first backups were all successful onto my NFS Share and I can see some folders there
Always nice when the magic happens.
