What is New Earth
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@Minion-Queen said in Homeschool Resources:
@tonyshowoff said in Homeschool Resources:
@JaredBusch What is "new earth"?
Biblical Creation
That name is confusing or is it just me? Creation makes sense, but "new earth?" I guess they're renaming it to have less of a stigma?
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@Minion-Queen said in Homeschool Resources:
@tonyshowoff said in Homeschool Resources:
@JaredBusch What is "new earth"?
Biblical Creation
Well... not quite... Its specifically Young Earth Biblical Creation. There are alot of people that believe in old earth Biblical Creation.
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@Minion-Queen said in Homeschool Resources:
@tonyshowoff said in Homeschool Resources:
@JaredBusch What is "new earth"?
Biblical Creation
Young Earth, Old Earth... does it really matter? It's not like God's up there with a stop watch, "Ok, time to prepare the Earth for the next phase starting in 48 hours..."
Or maybe he is , and 48 hours to God is like 48,000,000 hours for us or something, lol.
I take the stance that Science isn't going to teach us about the Spiritual, and the Spiritual isn't going to teach us about science... However, the two are not mutually exclusive.
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@dafyre said in Homeschool Resources:
@Minion-Queen said in Homeschool Resources:
@tonyshowoff said in Homeschool Resources:
@JaredBusch What is "new earth"?
Biblical Creation
Young Earth, Old Earth... does it really matter? It's not like God's up there with a stop watch, "Ok, time to prepare the Earth for the next phase starting in 48 hours..."
Or maybe he is , and 48 hours to God is like 48,000,000 hours for us or something, lol.
I take the stance that Science isn't going to teach us about the Spiritual, and the Spiritual isn't going to teach us about science... However, the two are not mutually exclusive.
This type of commentary should go into a new thread as it is certain to be something that sets people off and will end up having nothing to do with the thread.
(Yes, I started it with my screenshot, sorry).
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@JaredBusch said in Homeschool Resources:
@dafyre said in Homeschool Resources:
@Minion-Queen said in Homeschool Resources:
@tonyshowoff said in Homeschool Resources:
@JaredBusch What is "new earth"?
Biblical Creation
Young Earth, Old Earth... does it really matter? It's not like God's up there with a stop watch, "Ok, time to prepare the Earth for the next phase starting in 48 hours..."
Or maybe he is , and 48 hours to God is like 48,000,000 hours for us or something, lol.
I take the stance that Science isn't going to teach us about the Spiritual, and the Spiritual isn't going to teach us about science... However, the two are not mutually exclusive.
This type of commentary should go into a new thread as it is certain to be something that sets people off and will end up having nothing to do with the thread.
(Yes, I started it with my screenshot, sorry).
Perhaps it should be split into another thread? Probably a good idea.
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And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller
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@tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:
And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller
Link?
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@thanksajdotcom said in What is New Earth:
@tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:
And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller
Link?
You're already here
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@tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:
@thanksajdotcom said in What is New Earth:
@tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:
And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller
Link?
You're already here
So the debate was about creation versus evolution or what?
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@thanksajdotcom said in What is New Earth:
@tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:
@thanksajdotcom said in What is New Earth:
@tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:
And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller
Link?
You're already here
So the debate was about creation versus evolution or what?
No debate, I don't think there's much of a point to that, but rather probably just discussion, if people want to argue that's fine I guess, but it was derailing the homeschooling topic is all.
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@tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:
@thanksajdotcom said in What is New Earth:
@tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:
@thanksajdotcom said in What is New Earth:
@tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:
And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller
Link?
You're already here
So the debate was about creation versus evolution or what?
No debate, I don't think there's much of a point to that, but rather probably just discussion, if people want to argue that's fine I guess, but it was derailing the homeschooling topic is all.
Ah ok. Got it.
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@tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:
And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller
Yes... so we don't flood the other thread with theology and science-speak, lol.
I totally take the blame for that one, lol.
I won't go as far to say that Science will never be wrong... Look at the early days... the Earth used to be flat, and the sun used to revolve around the Earth.
But I also can't wrap my head around a scenario of putting all of the parts for a watch in the washing machine and letting it run for 50 bazillion years that at some point you would have a fully functioning watch...
But I do believe that if I jump off the roof of a building I am going to fall.
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@thanksajdotcom said in What is New Earth:
@tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:
And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller
Link?
This IS the new thread.
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@brianlittlejohn said in What is New Earth:
@Minion-Queen said in Homeschool Resources:
@tonyshowoff said in Homeschool Resources:
@JaredBusch What is "new earth"?
Biblical Creation
Well... not quite... Its specifically Young Earth Biblical Creation. There are alot of people that believe in old earth Biblical Creation.
I'd say we sort of fit into the "old earth" creation, as in a similar idea to how in the Hadith, I think narrated by Abu Dharr, it states that if sciences defies our interpretation of the Qur'an, then our interpretation is wrong, i.e. I don't have an issue with the age of the Earth being 4.5 billion years or the like. I must prefer the idea of self-assembling elegance (as today we're working on in the lab as far as nano tubes and so forth) over God-snaps-his-fingers and everything is instantly in this state, including in partially state of decay.
(I reposted this because even this one went off topic a bit
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@dafyre said in What is New Earth:
@tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:
And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller
Yes... so we don't flood the other thread with theology and science-speak, lol.
Was that an intentional Bible pun?
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@brianlittlejohn said in What is New Earth:
@Minion-Queen said in Homeschool Resources:
@tonyshowoff said in Homeschool Resources:
@JaredBusch What is "new earth"?
Biblical Creation
Well... not quite... Its specifically Young Earth Biblical Creation. There are alot of people that believe in old earth Biblical Creation.
I've only heard Young Earth (meaning that the earth isn't old), but have not heard new earth.
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@scottalanmiller said in What is New Earth:
@dafyre said in What is New Earth:
@tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:
And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller
Yes... so we don't flood the other thread with theology and science-speak, lol.
Was that an intentional Bible pun?
Not quite intentional, lol.
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I would have guessed that New Earth, as opposed to Young Earth, would be the belief that the Earth was just created and the Bible and all of that stuff was part of the created back story. Like the Earth was just created six months ago and we all just remember being alive before then and like the dinosaurs and what have you, the Bible stories and human history were part of the "built in back story".
New isn't an apt replacement for Young.
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@dafyre said in What is New Earth:
@tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:
And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller
Yes... so we don't flood the other thread with theology and science-speak, lol.
I totally take the blame for that one, lol.
I won't go as far to say that Science will never be wrong... Look at the early days... the Earth used to be flat, and the sun used to revolve around the Earth.
But I also can't wrap my head around a scenario of putting all of the parts for a watch in the washing machine and letting it run for 50 bazillion years that at some point you would have a fully functioning watch...
But I do believe that if I jump off the roof of a building I am going to fall.
This is, personally, why I am agnostic. I understand why people choose to be atheist, but to me it doesn't make sense that so much order and function would come from unmitigated chaos. This is honestly one topic (at least as far as understanding evolution and the science behind it), I still need to do my homework on. Do I believe in a global flood like the Noah account? No. Do I believe we are here based on complete chance? No. I believe in a higher power, but do not claim to have the answers to what that higher power is. I don't think that, whatever he/she/it is, that it really has much to do with our daily affairs.
