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      Alex Sage
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      Your way over building this whole thing.....

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill
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        If I was rebuilding my company from scratch (15 employees) today, I would do it all online. Not even a question.

        Maybe a Synology in-house to replicate to cloud services.

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          DustinB3403
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          Why would you want to reduce cost, and implement Hyper-V and UEB?

          Why not XenServer and Xen Orchestra for the Hypervisor?

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            Alex Sage
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            I still don't understand they need a on-site server. Seems like a perfect opportunity to do everything "in the cloud".

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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              @aaronstuder said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

              I still don't understand they need a on-site server. Seems like a perfect opportunity to do everything "in the cloud".

              Storage would be the big question. Do they need local storage? If not... grab https://www.smartfile.com/ or get that hosted Datto Drive through @BRRABill and you are all set. Easy peasy zero on site.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @Alex Sage
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                @aaronstuder said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                I still don't understand they need a on-site server. Seems like a perfect opportunity to do everything "in the cloud".

                Agree 100%

                Once you explain to them what it does for them, they'll be hooked.

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                  thanksajdotcom @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                  Why would you want to reduce cost, and implement Hyper-V and UEB?

                  Why not XenServer and Xen Orchestra for the Hypervisor?

                  I actually have no Xen experience...sadly... 😢

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @thanksajdotcom
                    last edited by

                    @thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                    Why would you want to reduce cost, and implement Hyper-V and UEB?

                    Why not XenServer and Xen Orchestra for the Hypervisor?

                    I actually have no Xen experience...sadly... 😢

                    It's the most simple Hypervisor out there.

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                      Alex Sage
                      last edited by

                      Even if they need a Windows Server (I doubt they do) but if they did I would go ZeroTier and a hosted server.

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                        thanksajdotcom
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                        I do agree that the more I think about it, the most hosted would make sense. For their current size, it makes a lot more sense than on-premise.

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                          Alex Sage @thanksajdotcom
                          last edited by Alex Sage

                          @thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                          Why would you want to reduce cost, and implement Hyper-V and UEB?

                          Why not XenServer and Xen Orchestra for the Hypervisor?

                          I actually have no Xen experience...sadly... 😢

                          You don't need any, it's pretty simple.

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said

                            It's the most simple Hypervisor out there.

                            It really is easy.

                            I got a little frustrated at something this week, and decided to consider a move back to Hyper-V. I installed Hyper-V, and no lie was back to XS within the hour.

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                              thanksajdotcom @BRRABill
                              last edited by

                              @BRRABill said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                              @DustinB3403 said

                              It's the most simple Hypervisor out there.

                              It really is easy.

                              I got a little frustrated at something this week, and decided to consider a move back to Hyper-V. I installed Hyper-V, and no lie was back to XS within the hour.

                              Well that's good to hear. But the whole hypervisor discussion might be moot anyways, because the more I think about it, the more hosted makes sense.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @thanksajdotcom
                                last edited by

                                @thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                                I do agree that the more I think about it, the most hosted would make sense. For their current size, it makes a lot more sense than on-premise.

                                Cost alone, I mean they can get Office365 with 1TB of storage plus more for each user, and Office apps, and e-mail .... times 7, and it would takes years before you hit the cost of a server probably.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @thanksajdotcom
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                                  @thanksajdotcom said

                                  Well that's good to hear. But the whole hypervisor discussion might be moot anyways, because the more I think about it, the more hosted makes sense.

                                  Yep.

                                  We used to have 60 people here, which is why we have the internal stuff.

                                  But like I said, if I could start over, it would be all cloud.

                                  We're actually trying to move as much as possible to the cloud as it is.

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                                    IRJ
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                                    I would recommend a VPS for their ticketing system and no AD.

                                    For files, all they need is a simple on site NAS with redundancy.

                                    Get them on Google Apps for business and Office 365 and call it a day.

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                                    • IRJI
                                      IRJ
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                                      Also, remember that growth means extra income. As they grow, they will have more income. What you are doing is setting them up for growth. If you over spec everything they will never get value out of it. Even if the company doubled in 3 years they still would not need AD .

                                      VPS - low monthly payment that allows for growth

                                      Google Apps\ Office 365 - low monthly payment that allows for growth

                                      NAS - Good investment for file sharing. They can always buy something else if they grow exponentially.

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                                        IRJ
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                                        @thanksajdotcom Everytime you get a new job is that you try to be superman and prove that you are this badass tech. Please just think about the actual requirements and leave it at that.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                          @thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                                          Why would you want to reduce cost, and implement Hyper-V and UEB?

                                          Why not XenServer and Xen Orchestra for the Hypervisor?

                                          I actually have no Xen experience...sadly... 😢

                                          Do you have Hyper-V experience? Jared feels Hyper-V has the lower learning curve. I feel XenServer does. I think even he would agree given your Linux background that XenServer would be easier for you.

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                                            thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                                            @thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                                            Why would you want to reduce cost, and implement Hyper-V and UEB?

                                            Why not XenServer and Xen Orchestra for the Hypervisor?

                                            I actually have no Xen experience...sadly... 😢

                                            Do you have Hyper-V experience? Jared feels Hyper-V has the lower learning curve. I feel XenServer does. I think even he would agree given your Linux background that XenServer would be easier for you.

                                            I do have Hyper-V experience. I have a lot more experience with VMware but I have done a decent amount of work with Hyper-V 2012.

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