Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti
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@Breffni-Potter said:
As for own servers with a good amount of bandwidth, what data rate do you need?
At least 1Gb/s to not make things slower than necessary.
Need? Not much. "Can use", a lot.
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@Breffni-Potter said:
What are the speeds you will get from those hosted providers? If the content creators (netflix/amazon/google) limit your bandwidth, what do you really get in reality? Are we closer to 10-20 per second?
Quite a lot, really. Considering we might use four different services all serving HD (1080p or even 4K) at once (Hulu, Amazon, Netflix and YouTube/Google) just for entertainment alone, it adds up really quickly. If each can deliver 30Mb/s, that means 120Mb/s is needed just to keep things working.
Then add in Steam downloads, GOG, Origin and similar. Even just consumer "needs" get really big, really quickly.
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@Breffni-Potter said:
@scottalanmiller said:
An example... our own ownCloud instance can get 100Mb/s or more. If I don't have at least that at home then my ownCloud is getting throttled on my end instead of on the hosting end.
But how much of that bandwidth do you notice you use? If I bounced you down to 50, how long before you notice? Do you work with GB files often or is it mostly documents?
We can never get that much because of our lifestyle. So we notice both upload and download limits every moment of every day. We totally alter our online lifestyle due to the lack of being able to get enough bandwidth.
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@scottalanmiller said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@Breffni-Potter said:
What are the speeds you will get from those hosted providers? If the content creators (netflix/amazon/google) limit your bandwidth, what do you really get in reality? Are we closer to 10-20 per second?
Quite a lot, really. Considering we might use four different services all serving HD (1080p or even 4K) at once (Hulu, Amazon, Netflix and YouTube/Google) just for entertainment alone, it adds up really quickly. If each can deliver 30Mb/s, that means 120Mb/s is needed just to keep things working.
Then add in Steam downloads, GOG, Origin and similar. Even just consumer "needs" get really big, really quickly.
Consumer wise I agree - we can easily need 150 Mb or more connections. But in a business? that's not doing online backups? or remote syncing. Though I suppose those are becoming more and more ubiquitous, so some will say it's crazy to even talk about situations that don't have those things.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Even just consumer "needs" get really big, really quickly.
Netflix uses 5 per second for 1080P though, if all 4 family members are watching 4K content at the same time that's a bit excessive. Steam, again they tend to content throttle you, most I've seen is 1 or 2 per second. Are the needs that great?
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@Breffni-Potter said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@scottalanmiller said:
Even just consumer "needs" get really big, really quickly.
Netflix uses 5 per second for 1080P though, if all 4 family members are watching 4K content at the same time that's a bit excessive. Steam, again they tend to content throttle you, most I've seen is 1 or 2 per second. Are the needs that great?
You've only seen 1 or 2 per second? I can download from Steam to saturate my 50Mb/s connection.
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@coliver said:
You've only seen 1 or 2 per second? I can download from Steam to saturate my 50Mb/s connection.
I'm on a 40 down connection and only get 1 or 2, time of day does not affect it. Maybe that's just in the UK though.
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@Breffni-Potter said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@coliver said:
You've only seen 1 or 2 per second? I can download from Steam to saturate my 50Mb/s connection.
I'm on a 40 down connection and only get 1 or 2, time of day does not affect it. Maybe that's just in the UK though.
Yes, I have to self limit Steam to not interrupt other things in my house. I am in a very rural part of NY too.
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@Breffni-Potter
Netflix uses 5 per second for 1080P though, if all 4 family members are watching 4K content at the same time that's a bit excessive.
Why is that excessive? We pay for the service, why would it be excessive to use it?
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@Breffni-Potter Steam, again they tend to content throttle you, most I've seen is 1 or 2 per second. Are the needs that great?
it took me over 30 days of continuously managing 20Mb/s connections to be able to download our Steam library partially while in the US last time. Steam will use more than I can get access to in Texas. And I need it as single game downloads can take a couple of days. Getting our library downloaded takes a super long time.
I have no idea how fast Steam will go, as fast as I can give it access to is all that I know. 20Mb/s at least for one download at a time.
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@coliver said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@Breffni-Potter said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@scottalanmiller said:
Even just consumer "needs" get really big, really quickly.
Netflix uses 5 per second for 1080P though, if all 4 family members are watching 4K content at the same time that's a bit excessive. Steam, again they tend to content throttle you, most I've seen is 1 or 2 per second. Are the needs that great?
You've only seen 1 or 2 per second? I can download from Steam to saturate my 50Mb/s connection.
I get 19-25mb/s on Steam
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@scottalanmiller said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@Breffni-Potter Steam, again they tend to content throttle you, most I've seen is 1 or 2 per second. Are the needs that great?
it took me over 30 days of continuously managing 20Mb/s connections to be able to download our Steam library partially while in the US last time. Steam will use more than I can get access to in Texas. And I need it as single game downloads can take a couple of days. Getting our library downloaded takes a super long time.
I have no idea how fast Steam will go, as fast as I can give it access to is all that I know. 20Mb/s at least for one download at a time.
You're limited to 20 Mb down in Texas? damn.
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@Dashrender said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@Breffni-Potter Steam, again they tend to content throttle you, most I've seen is 1 or 2 per second. Are the needs that great?
it took me over 30 days of continuously managing 20Mb/s connections to be able to download our Steam library partially while in the US last time. Steam will use more than I can get access to in Texas. And I need it as single game downloads can take a couple of days. Getting our library downloaded takes a super long time.
I have no idea how fast Steam will go, as fast as I can give it access to is all that I know. 20Mb/s at least for one download at a time.
You're limited to 20 Mb down in Texas? damn.
There are regions with great Internet, and regions with nothing. Texas is very hot and cold as far as Internet access. My house in Dallas can get 100Mb/s, the condo in Houston struggles to get 5Mb/s. My brother in laws place across town gets 300Mb/s.
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@scottalanmiller I can get residential gigabit access where I live in Texas.
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@brianlittlejohn said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@scottalanmiller I can get residential gigabit access where I live in Texas.
I'm still waiting for my local service provider to build into my neighborhood, it's been like 8 months since they've started to accept orders, before they actually start.
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@brianlittlejohn said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@scottalanmiller I can get residential gigabit access where I live in Texas.
Now you're just making me jealous!
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@brianlittlejohn said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@scottalanmiller I can get residential gigabit access where I live in Texas.
Let me know when you finish that data center in your basement. I might rent some space from you, lol.
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@dafyre said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@brianlittlejohn said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@scottalanmiller I can get residential gigabit access where I live in Texas.
Let me know when you finish that data center in your basement. I might rent some space from you, lol.
I believe the same rules apply "no business use allowed"
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@DustinB3403 said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@dafyre said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@brianlittlejohn said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@scottalanmiller I can get residential gigabit access where I live in Texas.
Let me know when you finish that data center in your basement. I might rent some space from you, lol.
I believe the same rules apply "no business use allowed"
It's not business use. I'm just a friend helping to offset his internet costs.
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@dafyre said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@DustinB3403 said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@dafyre said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@brianlittlejohn said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@scottalanmiller I can get residential gigabit access where I live in Texas.
Let me know when you finish that data center in your basement. I might rent some space from you, lol.
I believe the same rules apply "no business use allowed"
It's not business use. I'm just a friend helping to offset his internet costs.
As well as power and cooling costs. In fact I would be willing to offset some hardware and management costs as well.
