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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
      last edited by

      @BRRABill said:

      @aaronstuder said:

      or maybe this: https://www.dunkindonuts.com/dunkindonuts/en.html

      That's what I figured. I actually just got back from there with a coffee. Thanks @scottalanmiller !

      I'm so sorry.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        I've been using Clonezilla for over 10 years. it's my go to for this type of thing.

        If you had performance issues using it, I'd look at your interfaces to see if there was a problem there.

        Normally I push my images to a SMB share, it's also where I restore images from. a 20 GB image takes under 10 mins to restore, probably closer to 5 min on a 1 Gb network.

        If you were backing up to a USB 2.0 attached (or god forbid a 1.1) that would be why it was so slow.

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        • MattSpellerM
          MattSpeller
          last edited by MattSpeller

          Microsoft P2V converter called Disk2VHD. Rips it super quick, does it while logged in to windows, dumps it into a (kind of) convenient format (VHD, mountable in disk management)

          100% free, does not need to be installed, application is under 1mb, requires no prep

          https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ee656415.aspx

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @MattSpeller
            last edited by

            @MattSpeller said:

            Microsoft P2V converter called Disk2VHD. Rips it super quick, does it while logged in to windows, dumps it into a (kind of) convenient format (VHD, mountable in disk management)

            100% free, does not need to be installed, application is under 1mb

            https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ee656415.aspx

            Can you restore that to bare metal?

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            • MattSpellerM
              MattSpeller @Dashrender
              last edited by MattSpeller

              @Dashrender said:

              @MattSpeller said:

              Microsoft P2V converter called Disk2VHD. Rips it super quick, does it while logged in to windows, dumps it into a (kind of) convenient format (VHD, mountable in disk management)

              100% free, does not need to be installed, application is under 1mb

              https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ee656415.aspx

              Can you restore that to bare metal?

              I've never wanted to, I have no idea. Probably? It'd be messy.

              Edit: why not just fire it up as a vm? ๐Ÿ˜›

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                If you were backing up to a USB 2.0 attached (or god forbid a 1.1) that would be why it was so slow.

                It was USB 2.0, but so much slower than other products.

                Plus now that I have heard other are having restore issues ... maybe I'll just stick to other stuff.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @MattSpeller
                  last edited by

                  @MattSpeller said:

                  Microsoft P2V converter called Disk2VHD. Rips it super quick, does it while logged in to windows, dumps it into a (kind of) convenient format (VHD, mountable in disk management)

                  100% free, does not need to be installed, application is under 1mb, requires no prep

                  https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ee656415.aspx

                  That's a great idea.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @MattSpeller
                    last edited by

                    @MattSpeller said:

                    I've never wanted to, I have no idea. Probably? It'd be messy.

                    Edit: why not just fire it up as a vm? ๐Ÿ˜›

                    I guess the fear would be ... what if you needed to put the system back exactly as you found it?

                    Unlikely since you are trying to wipe and restore. But something to consider.

                    Considering you have the data, though, I'm not sure that is such a big issue.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill
                      last edited by

                      Hmmm, this old issue again, from the DISK2VHD page.

                      I mean really, come on.

                      Is it legal to just MAKE a VHD, I wonder?

                      Note: Physical-to-virtual hard drive migration of a Windows installation is a valid function for customers with Software Assurance and full retail copies of Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7. Software Assurance provides users valuable benefitsโ€”please contact Microsoft Corporation for further information. Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 7 installed by Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEM) using OEM versions of these products may not be transferred to a virtual hard drive in accordance with Microsoft licensing terms.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        @BRRABill said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        If you were backing up to a USB 2.0 attached (or god forbid a 1.1) that would be why it was so slow.

                        It was USB 2.0, but so much slower than other products.

                        Plus now that I have heard other are having restore issues ... maybe I'll just stick to other stuff.

                        who is havin a problem with what? Clonezilla? I've never had a problem I didn't cause.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @BRRABill said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          If you were backing up to a USB 2.0 attached (or god forbid a 1.1) that would be why it was so slow.

                          It was USB 2.0, but so much slower than other products.

                          Plus now that I have heard other are having restore issues ... maybe I'll just stick to other stuff.

                          who is havin a problem with what? Clonezilla? I've never had a problem I didn't cause.

                          No one. The stated issue was with Veeam.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            I use Veeam Endpoint Backup and it works great. I have never had a problem restoring individual files or encore systems. I did a bare metal restore last week, remotely in fact.

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                            • iroalI
                              iroal @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @MattSpeller said:

                              Microsoft P2V converter called Disk2VHD. Rips it super quick, does it while logged in to windows, dumps it into a (kind of) convenient format (VHD, mountable in disk management)

                              100% free, does not need to be installed, application is under 1mb

                              https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ee656415.aspx

                              Can you restore that to bare metal?

                              Yes, you can do it.

                              There will be problems with the drivers, but nothing that you can resolve.

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                              • AmbarishrhA
                                Ambarishrh @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @JaredBusch said:

                                I use Veeam Endpoint Backup and it works great. I have never had a problem restoring individual files or encore systems. I did a bare metal restore last week, remotely in fact.

                                One of Windows 10 update screwed up my Surface Pro 4 audio and none of the fixes worked. Used my Veeam backup, restored everything back to what it was just before the update and working fine now

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Ambarishrh
                                  last edited by

                                  @Ambarishrh said:

                                  @JaredBusch said:

                                  I use Veeam Endpoint Backup and it works great. I have never had a problem restoring individual files or encore systems. I did a bare metal restore last week, remotely in fact.

                                  One of Windows 10 update screwed up my Surface Pro 4 audio and none of the fixes worked. Used my Veeam backup, restored everything back to what it was just before the update and working fine now

                                  Because... Surface.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    I've never seen any single device have more issues and more people say that they don't have issues while so many people are posting issues ๐Ÿ™‚

                                    Except for SANs.

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre @RojoLoco
                                      last edited by

                                      @RojoLoco said:

                                      @dafyre said:

                                      I've had good luck doing it with Veeam Endpoint Recovery Free. it works great.

                                      When I tested that, I could never get a disk image to restore correctly. Macrium Reflect Free edition was the fastest and most reliable in my tests, both for backup and restoration, whole disk imaging.

                                      But let's face it, if the software can't successfully restore the image, it's not worth a shit.

                                      (I have also used Acronis, DriveImage XML, and Clonezilla in the past, all great success!)

                                      I've used Macrium as well. It does seem to work well, I just generally don't think about it unless Veeam or Clonezilla don't work.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said:

                                        I use Veeam Endpoint Backup and it works great. I have never had a problem restoring individual files or encore systems. I did a bare metal restore last week, remotely in fact.

                                        I"ll give it another try on this machine. I have some time with it, I can try a few of them and see what happens.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          Did some testing today.

                                          DISK2VHD was quick to get running, and took around 11 minutes to do a full VHD backup.

                                          DRIVEIMAGEXML kept freezing on this particular machine. Odd. (I tried multiple times.)

                                          MACRIUM took about 11 minutes as well. A little longer up front to install the program.

                                          VEEAM took a consider amount of time to download and install. It also took about 23 minutes to run the backup.

                                          So anyway ... just some interesting numbers.

                                          I think DISK2VHD might be the way to go moving forward.

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre @BRRABill
                                            last edited by

                                            @BRRABill said:

                                            Did some testing today.

                                            DISK2VHD was quick to get running, and took around 11 minutes to do a full VHD backup.

                                            DRIVEIMAGEXML kept freezing on this particular machine. Odd. (I tried multiple times.)

                                            MACRIUM took about 11 minutes as well. A little longer up front to install the program.

                                            VEEAM took a consider amount of time to download and install. It also took about 23 minutes to run the backup.

                                            So anyway ... just some interesting numbers.

                                            I think DISK2VHD might be the way to go moving forward.

                                            The question is in the event of things like a hard drive upgrade, etc... would you be able to use Disk2VHD to restore a VHD file to a new hard drive or no?

                                            Thanks for the numbers... those are good to see!

                                            How do the backup sizes compare?

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