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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said:

      Not to mention that you'll still want a contact list on there. So are you saying you never add a phone number/email address/etc via the phone? You only do it via another device? cause if you do it via the phone, then you do want/need backups/syncing.

      Those go directly elsewhere as well. Exchange, iCloud, etc.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        @BRRABill said:

        @Dashrender said:

        This doesn't make sense to me. If you, like he, takes pictures with your phone - how do you get them off the phone? Unless you just don't care about them.. or, you only take pictures assuming you can post them to wherever that moment.. if not, you skip the pic.

        Goes right to iCloud.

        technically a backup.

        Only if the phone continues to be the primary storage device. Technically, it's the iPhone that is the backup, not the cloud storage. And only if you keep that stuff on your phone, I do not.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Dashrender said:

          @BRRABill said:

          @Dashrender said:

          You have backups don't you? shouldn't be an issue.

          No need for backups. No data is stored on the phone anymore.

          I've caved to the @scottalanmiller method of data storage.

          This doesn't make sense to me. If you, like he, takes pictures with your phone - how do you get them off the phone? Unless you just don't care about them.. or, you only take pictures assuming you can post them to wherever that moment.. if not, you skip the pic.

          Lots of services upload pictures immediately as they are taken. It's the default for many of them.

          That's still a backup though - so, yes there was/is important data on there, and you're choosing to instantly back it up when possible, making the device and it's local storage much less of an issue, but the idea that there is no valuable data on it is just wrong.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Dashrender said:

            @BRRABill said:

            @Dashrender said:

            You have backups don't you? shouldn't be an issue.

            No need for backups. No data is stored on the phone anymore.

            I've caved to the @scottalanmiller method of data storage.

            This doesn't make sense to me. If you, like he, takes pictures with your phone - how do you get them off the phone? Unless you just don't care about them.. or, you only take pictures assuming you can post them to wherever that moment.. if not, you skip the pic.

            Lots of services upload pictures immediately as they are taken. It's the default for many of them.

            That's still a backup though - so, yes there was/is important data on there, and you're choosing to instantly back it up when possible, making the device and it's local storage much less of an issue, but the idea that there is no valuable data on it is just wrong.

            I wouldn't use the term backup. The phone might have a duplicate copy temporarily but the term backup implies intentionality, which is lacking here. That would be a point of semantics worth discussing, but the idea is that it is clear from the mobile device almost immediately. No intention of it remaining there.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
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              Yep semantics - 🙂

              Your phone deletes the picture locally once it confirms that the picture in the cloud? Is that an option in iPhones with iCloud?

              I don't haven an option like that on Windows Phone with OneDrive - auto backup, yes, auto backup then delete local, no.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said:

                Yep semantics - 🙂

                Your phone deletes the picture locally once it confirms that the picture in the cloud? Is that an option in iPhones with iCloud?

                I don't haven an option like that on Windows Phone with OneDrive - auto backup, yes, auto backup then delete local, no.

                No, I delete as soon as it uploads. I upload manually, I delete manually. But it is a standard, repeated process all done at once. I upload, verify, delete.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Oddly, I'm running this very process while we discuss it. Uploading everything on my phone from today to Flickr right now. And they will be deleted as soon as that finishes.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    Yep semantics - 🙂

                    Your phone deletes the picture locally once it confirms that the picture in the cloud? Is that an option in iPhones with iCloud?

                    I don't haven an option like that on Windows Phone with OneDrive - auto backup, yes, auto backup then delete local, no.

                    No, I delete as soon as it uploads. I upload manually, I delete manually. But it is a standard, repeated process all done at once. I upload, verify, delete.

                    Then, only because of your process, it's not a backup.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      Yep semantics - 🙂

                      Your phone deletes the picture locally once it confirms that the picture in the cloud? Is that an option in iPhones with iCloud?

                      I don't haven an option like that on Windows Phone with OneDrive - auto backup, yes, auto backup then delete local, no.

                      No, I delete as soon as it uploads. I upload manually, I delete manually. But it is a standard, repeated process all done at once. I upload, verify, delete.

                      Then, only because of your process, it's not a backup.

                      Well yes, but that is the process being discussed. When you don't use the phone as storage. For most of us, it would fill up pretty quickly so not much of an option.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
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                        Even so - I think most people would say "you're backing up to Flickr" then you're deleting from the phone.

                        Though I certainly understand that you consider it just copying to Flickr before deleting it from local.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said:

                          Even so - I think most people would say "you're backing up to Flickr" then you're deleting from the phone.

                          Though I certainly understand that you consider it just copying to Flickr before deleting it from local.

                          Most people would be using the wrong terms too. He is uploading to Flickr, not backing up to it.

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