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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @Jason
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      @Jason said:

      @Dashrender said:

      @MattSpeller said:

      @Jason said:

      @MattSpeller said:

      If you want one that actually works nicely and "does what it says on the tin" then check out these bad boys.

      http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822108185 (Canadian link, Canadian $$$)

      For cheaper you could whitebox a solution but then it'd be network only.

      Edit: why not network it? I've seen you ask for local connections but no reason for it.

      Needs to be DAS. NAS isn't nearly fast enough for the data. also Macbooks are Wifi only making it worse.

      In my experience you'll have better performance from gigabit ethernet than you will with USB3. eSATA would be better than both, but not by much. Can't speak to thunderbolt.

      Exactly what I was thinking... he thumbed his nose at NAS - I was assuming a 1 Gbe connection - I suppose if you really need the slight edge eSATA can provide.. fine.. or thunderbolt assuming it's even faster.. but damn.. I've been pretty happy with 1 Gbe as long as the controller in the NAS is decent.

      Gigabit Can't handle RAW 4k-8k Video files haha

      Serious question, what can? What do you need bandwidth wise for that? 2 Gb? 10 Gb?

      While sure people like Scott want to do this crazy 4/8K video stuff, that's either a maxed out prosumer thing, or clearly mid class business stuff, and you should be through some real capital at solving that problem, not chump change.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        Serious question, what can? What do you need bandwidth wise for that? 2 Gb? 10 Gb?

        Over a NETWORK, 10GigE will do that just fine. And there are several faster options than that if needed.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said:

          While sure people like Scott want to do this crazy 4/8K video stuff, that's either a maxed out prosumer thing, or clearly mid class business stuff, and you should be through some real capital at solving that problem, not chump change.

          If you are dealing with a video production business, which is a very common thing, you need this all of the time.

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            Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Dashrender said:

            Serious question, what can? What do you need bandwidth wise for that? 2 Gb? 10 Gb?

            Over a NETWORK, 10GigE will do that just fine. And there are several faster options than that if needed.

            Yep. To bad that would be way to expensive..

            Heck 10GB wifi would be really nice too.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Dashrender said:

              While sure people like Scott want to do this crazy 4/8K video stuff, that's either a maxed out prosumer thing, or clearly mid class business stuff, and you should be through some real capital at solving that problem, not chump change.

              If you are dealing with a video production business, which is a very common thing, you need this all of the time.

              Sure, but it's not going to be cheap!

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @Dashrender said:

                While sure people like Scott want to do this crazy 4/8K video stuff, that's either a maxed out prosumer thing, or clearly mid class business stuff, and you should be through some real capital at solving that problem, not chump change.

                If you are dealing with a video production business, which is a very common thing, you need this all of the time.

                Sure, but it's not going to be cheap!

                Sure it is. 10GigE is not that expensive. You could get desktop motherboards with dual 10GigE in 2014: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8781/asrock-x99-ws-e-10g-motherboard-review-dual-10gbaset-for-prosumers

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                  Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  While sure people like Scott want to do this crazy 4/8K video stuff, that's either a maxed out prosumer thing, or clearly mid class business stuff, and you should be through some real capital at solving that problem, not chump change.

                  If you are dealing with a video production business, which is a very common thing, you need this all of the time.

                  Sure, but it's not going to be cheap!

                  Sure it is. 10GigE is not that expensive. You could get desktop motherboards with dual 10GigE in 2014: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8781/asrock-x99-ws-e-10g-motherboard-review-dual-10gbaset-for-prosumers

                  Err I mean to the Mac..

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Jason
                    last edited by

                    @Jason said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    While sure people like Scott want to do this crazy 4/8K video stuff, that's either a maxed out prosumer thing, or clearly mid class business stuff, and you should be through some real capital at solving that problem, not chump change.

                    If you are dealing with a video production business, which is a very common thing, you need this all of the time.

                    Sure, but it's not going to be cheap!

                    Sure it is. 10GigE is not that expensive. You could get desktop motherboards with dual 10GigE in 2014: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8781/asrock-x99-ws-e-10g-motherboard-review-dual-10gbaset-for-prosumers

                    Err I mean to the Mac..

                    Oh well, if you have a Mac, nothing is going to be cheap.

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                      Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Jason said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      While sure people like Scott want to do this crazy 4/8K video stuff, that's either a maxed out prosumer thing, or clearly mid class business stuff, and you should be through some real capital at solving that problem, not chump change.

                      If you are dealing with a video production business, which is a very common thing, you need this all of the time.

                      Sure, but it's not going to be cheap!

                      Sure it is. 10GigE is not that expensive. You could get desktop motherboards with dual 10GigE in 2014: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8781/asrock-x99-ws-e-10g-motherboard-review-dual-10gbaset-for-prosumers

                      Err I mean to the Mac..

                      Oh well, if you have a Mac, nothing is going to be cheap.

                      Thunderbolt to 10GBe is $500

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said:

                        Sure, but it's not going to be cheap!

                        The first one I found is $700. But that's a super high end board with dual 10GigE built in and able to handle 128GB of RAM from 2014. If you are doing high end video processing, a few hundred extra for your Mobo is going to be expected anyway. This would not add that much onto the overall system cost. Often people are dropping $3K on these machines already.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Jason
                          last edited by

                          @Jason said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Jason said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          While sure people like Scott want to do this crazy 4/8K video stuff, that's either a maxed out prosumer thing, or clearly mid class business stuff, and you should be through some real capital at solving that problem, not chump change.

                          If you are dealing with a video production business, which is a very common thing, you need this all of the time.

                          Sure, but it's not going to be cheap!

                          Sure it is. 10GigE is not that expensive. You could get desktop motherboards with dual 10GigE in 2014: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8781/asrock-x99-ws-e-10g-motherboard-review-dual-10gbaset-for-prosumers

                          Err I mean to the Mac..

                          Oh well, if you have a Mac, nothing is going to be cheap.

                          Thunderbolt to 10GBe is $500

                          Not horrible but not great.

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                            Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Jason said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Jason said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            While sure people like Scott want to do this crazy 4/8K video stuff, that's either a maxed out prosumer thing, or clearly mid class business stuff, and you should be through some real capital at solving that problem, not chump change.

                            If you are dealing with a video production business, which is a very common thing, you need this all of the time.

                            Sure, but it's not going to be cheap!

                            Sure it is. 10GigE is not that expensive. You could get desktop motherboards with dual 10GigE in 2014: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8781/asrock-x99-ws-e-10g-motherboard-review-dual-10gbaset-for-prosumers

                            Err I mean to the Mac..

                            Oh well, if you have a Mac, nothing is going to be cheap.

                            Thunderbolt to 10GBe is $500

                            Not horrible but not great.

                            It's dumb to me that no mac has 10GBe on board yet.

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                            • MattSpellerM
                              MattSpeller @Jason
                              last edited by

                              @Jason said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Jason said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              While sure people like Scott want to do this crazy 4/8K video stuff, that's either a maxed out prosumer thing, or clearly mid class business stuff, and you should be through some real capital at solving that problem, not chump change.

                              If you are dealing with a video production business, which is a very common thing, you need this all of the time.

                              Sure, but it's not going to be cheap!

                              Sure it is. 10GigE is not that expensive. You could get desktop motherboards with dual 10GigE in 2014: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8781/asrock-x99-ws-e-10g-motherboard-review-dual-10gbaset-for-prosumers

                              Err I mean to the Mac..

                              Oh well, if you have a Mac, nothing is going to be cheap.

                              Thunderbolt to 10GBe is $500

                              Ehhh cost of admission to the 10GBe club. Really if you're after performance that'll be couch cushion change after you've got a sexy NAS and HDD's

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Jason
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                                @Jason said:

                                It's dumb to me that no mac has 10GBe on board yet.

                                Just doesn't seem to be the Mac wheelhouse. They have very specific markets.

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                                  Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Jason said:

                                  It's dumb to me that no mac has 10GBe on board yet.

                                  Just doesn't seem to be the Mac wheelhouse. They have very specific markets.

                                  yeah anymore it's consumer-ish not Pro.. Sadly video codecs just work better on macs because developers focus their time there more.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    Sure, but it's not going to be cheap!

                                    The first one I found is $700. But that's a super high end board with dual 10GigE built in and able to handle 128GB of RAM from 2014. If you are doing high end video processing, a few hundred extra for your Mobo is going to be expected anyway. This would not add that much onto the overall system cost. Often people are dropping $3K on these machines already.

                                    LOL - like I said - NOT Cheap!

                                    Then how much is a switch, assuming you need one? The chassis will be rather expensive as well for those drives.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      Then how much is a switch, assuming you need one?
                                      http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-ProSAFE-12-Port-10GBase-T-XS712T-100NES/dp/B00BWBLL6S

                                      About $1550 to start.

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                                      • MattSpellerM
                                        MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        Then how much is a switch, assuming you need one?
                                        http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-ProSAFE-12-Port-10GBase-T-XS712T-100NES/dp/B00BWBLL6S

                                        About $1550 to start.

                                        $850 for an 8 port

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          It's pretty close to $100/port these days.

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                                            Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            Sure, but it's not going to be cheap!

                                            The first one I found is $700. But that's a super high end board with dual 10GigE built in and able to handle 128GB of RAM from 2014. If you are doing high end video processing, a few hundred extra for your Mobo is going to be expected anyway. This would not add that much onto the overall system cost. Often people are dropping $3K on these machines already.

                                            LOL - like I said - NOT Cheap!

                                            Then how much is a switch, assuming you need one? The chassis will be rather expensive as well for those drives.

                                            You could just directly plug in without a switch if needed. Quad ports and such will do no good unless the PC using it has the same number of ports anyway..

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