Introducing UbuntuBSD
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@tonyshowoff said:
I know that officially Debian still uses the term "GNU/Linux" for some reason, but most people can't even pronounce their name correctly, so I think they focus on the wrong thing anyway -- it's a contraction of "Debra" and "Ian" so it's no more "Deebian" than Linux is "Lighnux."
I've actually never heard that spoken any way except for Deb-Ian. But I can see where people not knowing what it was would find a different way to pronounce it.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@tonyshowoff said:
I know that officially Debian still uses the term "GNU/Linux" for some reason, but most people can't even pronounce their name correctly, so I think they focus on the wrong thing anyway -- it's a contraction of "Debra" and "Ian" so it's no more "Deebian" than Linux is "Lighnux."
I've actually never heard that spoken any way except for Deb-Ian. But I can see where people not knowing what it was would find a different way to pronounce it.
Well, as a non-native English speaker, I'm not a big stickler about that kind of thing. It just seems to me they'd want people to say their name first for business reasons, before worrying about something as mundane and uninteresting to business as "GNU."
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@tonyshowoff said:
Well, as a non-native English speaker, I'm not a big stickler about that kind of thing. It just seems to me they'd want people to say their name first for business reasons, before worrying about something as mundane and uninteresting to business as "GNU."
There is no business there. That's the same crowd as the GNU people. Some weird hippy fringe, not production systems people.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@tonyshowoff said:
Well, as a non-native English speaker, I'm not a big stickler about that kind of thing. It just seems to me they'd want people to say their name first for business reasons, before worrying about something as mundane and uninteresting to business as "GNU."
There is no business there. That's the same crowd as the GNU people. Some weird hippy fringe, not production systems people.
More business than any business GNU could have, after all, Debian is semi-popular for "the cloud," but nobody on Earth uses GNU with the Linux kernel, not even Stallman.
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You mean you guys don't use these GNU/Linux distributions?
https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
"GNU/Linux is used by millions, though many call it “Linux” by mistake."
AHHHHH
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@johnhooks If it's GNU/Linux then it's also Zend/Wordpress. I hope one day we can all live in a world where the GNU toolchain no longer matters at all, and it's actually pretty close.
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the quote on your site:
with this model there would no need for publishers at all. All profits would go to developers, the people who deserve the money and did the work. No need to spend on marketing or distribution either, ergo no need for publisher.
Ha he sounds like every single minimum wage worker. "The CEO doesn't do any work", "those 'Fat Cat' executives that just sit in their offices while we do all of the hard work"
Also, if you don't spend money on marketing or distribution, how the eff do people find out about your software? Am I the only one that doesn't comb through GitHub every morning when I wake up to find new free open source software?
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Yup, just you. that's what I do all morning, comb GitHub.
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@johnhooks said:
the quote on your site:
with this model there would no need for publishers at all. All profits would go to developers, the people who deserve the money and did the work. No need to spend on marketing or distribution either, ergo no need for publisher.
Ha he sounds like every single minimum wage worker. "The CEO doesn't do any work", "those 'Fat Cat' executives that just sit in their offices while we do all of the hard work"
Also, if you don't spend money on marketing or distribution, how the eff do people find out about your software? Am I the only one that doesn't comb through GitHub every morning when I wake up to find new free open source software?
Well as I pointed out they don't really think about things like that, my guess is they've either never had a real job, or never had to struggle with a low paying job (possibly also academic). And yes, I also see the latest free and open source stuff out there, and steal tons of ideas too.
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The never had a real job thing is big. Tons of those people don't have any clue where work is done or who is putting in effort.
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@johnhooks said:
the quote on your site:
with this model there would no need for publishers at all. All profits would go to developers, the people who deserve the money and did the work. No need to spend on marketing or distribution either, ergo no need for publisher.
Ha he sounds like every single minimum wage worker. "The CEO doesn't do any work", "those 'Fat Cat' executives that just sit in their offices while we do all of the hard work"
Also, if you don't spend money on marketing or distribution, how the eff do people find out about your software? Am I the only one that doesn't comb through GitHub every morning when I wake up to find new free open source software?
Seriously I've never done that, not once! I've gone to a few direct links..
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@scottalanmiller said:
Yeah, the GNU/Linux people seem to have died off long ago. It was one of those big trends once upon a time.
Richard Stallman died off? .... (joke)
I swear, in EVERY conversation I've heard him engage, he spins the conversation into the naming (GNU/Linux... NOT Linux). I think in the flick Revolution OS he talked about it no less than 60 times.
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@BBigford said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Yeah, the GNU/Linux people seem to have died off long ago. It was one of those big trends once upon a time.
Richard Stallman died off? .... (joke)
I swear, in EVERY conversation I've heard him engage, he spins the conversation into the naming (GNU/Linux... NOT Linux). I think in the flick Revolution OS he talked about it no less than 60 times.
That movie also hinted at what a total psycho Eric S Raymond also is with his bizarre explosive behaviour. He's also pretty... pretty extremely sexist and actually not even really that technical, he's more like Stallman. What I do like is him complaining about Stallman, sometimes it's pretty funny what he writes and calls him out on.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Tons of those people don't have any clue where work is done or who is putting in effort.
Or the different kinds of effort required. The Marketing guys will have to put forth a whole different effort than the devs in the back corner, or the C-Level Suits at the top of the food chain.
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@tonyshowoff said:
@BBigford said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Yeah, the GNU/Linux people seem to have died off long ago. It was one of those big trends once upon a time.
Richard Stallman died off? .... (joke)
I swear, in EVERY conversation I've heard him engage, he spins the conversation into the naming (GNU/Linux... NOT Linux). I think in the flick Revolution OS he talked about it no less than 60 times.
That movie also hinted at what a total psycho Eric S Raymond also is with his bizarre explosive behaviour. He's also pretty... pretty extremely sexist and actually not even really that technical, he's more like Stallman. What I do like is him complaining about Stallman, sometimes it's pretty funny what he writes and calls him out on.
I don't remember him being explosive in that movie. Got any examples to refresh my memory?
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@BBigford said:
@tonyshowoff said:
@BBigford said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Yeah, the GNU/Linux people seem to have died off long ago. It was one of those big trends once upon a time.
Richard Stallman died off? .... (joke)
I swear, in EVERY conversation I've heard him engage, he spins the conversation into the naming (GNU/Linux... NOT Linux). I think in the flick Revolution OS he talked about it no less than 60 times.
That movie also hinted at what a total psycho Eric S Raymond also is with his bizarre explosive behaviour. He's also pretty... pretty extremely sexist and actually not even really that technical, he's more like Stallman. What I do like is him complaining about Stallman, sometimes it's pretty funny what he writes and calls him out on.
I don't remember him being explosive in that movie. Got any examples to refresh my memory?
Well when the interviewer brings up that some people compare open source to communism, something that actually almost never happens in real life, his face turns bright red, he flips out and gives a very 1950s ice America view of life under Marxism. As someone from such a country, it was really strange. It did seem like he was trying to restrain himself.
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@tonyshowoff said:
@BBigford said:
@tonyshowoff said:
@BBigford said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Yeah, the GNU/Linux people seem to have died off long ago. It was one of those big trends once upon a time.
Richard Stallman died off? .... (joke)
I swear, in EVERY conversation I've heard him engage, he spins the conversation into the naming (GNU/Linux... NOT Linux). I think in the flick Revolution OS he talked about it no less than 60 times.
That movie also hinted at what a total psycho Eric S Raymond also is with his bizarre explosive behaviour. He's also pretty... pretty extremely sexist and actually not even really that technical, he's more like Stallman. What I do like is him complaining about Stallman, sometimes it's pretty funny what he writes and calls him out on.
I don't remember him being explosive in that movie. Got any examples to refresh my memory?
Well when the interviewer brings up that some people compare open source to communism, something that actually almost never happens in real life, his face turns bright red, he flips out and gives a very 1950s ice America view of life under Marxism. As someone from such a country, it was really strange. It did seem like he was trying to restrain himself.
American propaganda at its best.
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@tonyshowoff said:
@BBigford said:
@tonyshowoff said:
@BBigford said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Yeah, the GNU/Linux people seem to have died off long ago. It was one of those big trends once upon a time.
Richard Stallman died off? .... (joke)
I swear, in EVERY conversation I've heard him engage, he spins the conversation into the naming (GNU/Linux... NOT Linux). I think in the flick Revolution OS he talked about it no less than 60 times.
That movie also hinted at what a total psycho Eric S Raymond also is with his bizarre explosive behaviour. He's also pretty... pretty extremely sexist and actually not even really that technical, he's more like Stallman. What I do like is him complaining about Stallman, sometimes it's pretty funny what he writes and calls him out on.
I don't remember him being explosive in that movie. Got any examples to refresh my memory?
Well when the interviewer brings up that some people compare open source to communism, something that actually almost never happens in real life, his face turns bright red, he flips out and gives a very 1950s ice America view of life under Marxism. As someone from such a country, it was really strange. It did seem like he was trying to restrain himself.
Haha I forgot about some of those lines. Thanks for the refresh. Been a while since I've watched that flick.
