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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Jason
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      @Jason said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @Jason said:

      @gjacobse said:

      @JaredBusch said:

      They make a product for that. The USG

      https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

      Okay - so it's NOT so far fetched.. Since there is a product.

      I'm good with leaving what I have running.

      Likely not MIPS based though.

      My guess is that it is, otherwise they would have to maintain more hardware.

      Yeah apperenlty it has the exact same MIPS processor as the ERL. Now I'm surpised someone hasn't pulled the unifi packages off of it and moved it to the ERL then.

      Not sure if it has the same amount of memory, but I would guess that it does. Seems pretty likely that you could do it, it's all GPL.

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        Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @Jason said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @Jason said:

        @gjacobse said:

        @JaredBusch said:

        They make a product for that. The USG

        https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

        Okay - so it's NOT so far fetched.. Since there is a product.

        I'm good with leaving what I have running.

        Likely not MIPS based though.

        My guess is that it is, otherwise they would have to maintain more hardware.

        Yeah apperenlty it has the exact same MIPS processor as the ERL. Now I'm surpised someone hasn't pulled the unifi packages off of it and moved it to the ERL then.

        Not sure if it has the same amount of memory.

        Nope. 512MB for ERL, 2GB for the USG.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Jason
          last edited by

          @Jason said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Jason said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Jason said:

          @gjacobse said:

          @JaredBusch said:

          They make a product for that. The USG

          https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

          Okay - so it's NOT so far fetched.. Since there is a product.

          I'm good with leaving what I have running.

          Likely not MIPS based though.

          My guess is that it is, otherwise they would have to maintain more hardware.

          Yeah apperenlty it has the exact same MIPS processor as the ERL. Now I'm surpised someone hasn't pulled the unifi packages off of it and moved it to the ERL then.

          Not sure if it has the same amount of memory.

          Nope. 512MB for ERL, 2GB for the USG.

          That makes sense. The Unifi system uses a ton more overhead.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            The code is GPL'd, so in theory you could compile it for MIPS if you wanted. But you would never want that controller running on your firewall. What's the end goal?

            One end goal would be for home use. Most home users use a router/AP all in one device. It would be nice to have the same for them, but with the AP external.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @Jason
              last edited by

              @Jason said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Jason said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Jason said:

              @gjacobse said:

              @JaredBusch said:

              They make a product for that. The USG

              https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

              Okay - so it's NOT so far fetched.. Since there is a product.

              I'm good with leaving what I have running.

              Likely not MIPS based though.

              My guess is that it is, otherwise they would have to maintain more hardware.

              Yeah apperenlty it has the exact same MIPS processor as the ERL. Now I'm surpised someone hasn't pulled the unifi packages off of it and moved it to the ERL then.

              Not sure if it has the same amount of memory.

              Nope. 512MB for ERL, 2GB for the USG.

              Welp.. so much for that idea.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                The code is GPL'd, so in theory you could compile it for MIPS if you wanted. But you would never want that controller running on your firewall. What's the end goal?

                One end goal would be for home use. Most home users use a router/AP all in one device. It would be nice to have the same for them, but with the AP external.

                That's very different than what was asked, though. It would be all the effort of two devices if you just loaded the tool into the ERL as it would not be part of the main interface. So it would be exactly the same to an end user as if they had two IP addresses because they'd have two URLs. So that can't be a reason for going down this path.

                The UGS approach is different because that merges the managed into one. What the OP is doing here is not reducing the effort (and no home user is going to be custom compiling for MIPS and overburdoning their firewalls with extra tools) but just trading a second IP for a second URL. No win from a useability perspective.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  The code is GPL'd, so in theory you could compile it for MIPS if you wanted. But you would never want that controller running on your firewall. What's the end goal?

                  One end goal would be for home use. Most home users use a router/AP all in one device. It would be nice to have the same for them, but with the AP external.

                  That's very different than what was asked, though. It would be all the effort of two devices if you just loaded the tool into the ERL as it would not be part of the main interface. So it would be exactly the same to an end user as if they had two IP addresses because they'd have two URLs. So that can't be a reason for going down this path.

                  The UGS approach is different because that merges the managed into one. What the OP is doing here is not reducing the effort (and no home user is going to be custom compiling for MIPS and overburdoning their firewalls with extra tools) but just trading a second IP for a second URL. No win from a useability perspective.

                  Oh I agree no home user will do that.
                  It would be nice if the Unifi security gateway device had the controller software built in (does anyone know? maybe it does?).

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said:

                    It would be nice if the Unifi security gateway device had the controller software built in (does anyone know? maybe it does?).

                    I think that it does.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      It would be nice if the Unifi security gateway device had the controller software built in (does anyone know? maybe it does?).

                      I think that it does.

                      SHIT! really? I have a friend who has a USG, but has no wired devices so he didn't install it because he was waiting for his Controller Stick, thinking that the USG didn't have that built in.

                      Something to try tonight!

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        It would be nice if the Unifi security gateway device had the controller software built in (does anyone know? maybe it does?).

                        I think that it does.

                        SHIT! really? I have a friend who has a USG, but has no wired devices so he didn't install it because he was waiting for his Controller Stick, thinking that the USG didn't have that built in.

                        Something to try tonight!

                        That might be correct, I don't have one (they are quite expensive and we don't use Unifi switches either so I don't see any value to it unless we embrace it end to end) so I can't test.

                        Why did he get the stick? Why not just control it from his desktop?

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          It would be nice if the Unifi security gateway device had the controller software built in (does anyone know? maybe it does?).

                          I think that it does.

                          SHIT! really? I have a friend who has a USG, but has no wired devices so he didn't install it because he was waiting for his Controller Stick, thinking that the USG didn't have that built in.

                          Something to try tonight!

                          That might be correct, I don't have one (they are quite expensive and we don't use Unifi switches either so I don't see any value to it unless we embrace it end to end) so I can't test.

                          Why did he get the stick? Why not just control it from his desktop?

                          You can't control an AP over wireless. He has no wired computers in the entire network.

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                            Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said:

                            You can't control an AP over wireless. He has no wired computers in the entire network.

                            I don't think the controller has a check built in for this..

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              It would be nice if the Unifi security gateway device had the controller software built in (does anyone know? maybe it does?).

                              I think that it does.

                              SHIT! really? I have a friend who has a USG, but has no wired devices so he didn't install it because he was waiting for his Controller Stick, thinking that the USG didn't have that built in.

                              Something to try tonight!

                              That might be correct, I don't have one (they are quite expensive and we don't use Unifi switches either so I don't see any value to it unless we embrace it end to end) so I can't test.

                              Why did he get the stick? Why not just control it from his desktop?

                              You can't control an AP over wireless. He has no wired computers in the entire network.

                              Why would this matter? The controller doe snot care how you access it. Obviously, for initial setup you need to plug something in to configure, but once you have the wireless network up, there is no reason that you cannot manage the unit from any device.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
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                                Don't ask me.. it's what he told me - so I just walked away and really didn't put any more thought into it.

                                But his thought was that you can't acquire the AP over wireless.

                                He has a greenfield setup.

                                But in thinking more about it... he's going to have to plug into the network no matter what for at least the first AP. After that he should be fine all wireless.

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