MangoCon Voting
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
I never thought of it that way. Still unenjoyable for someone who doesn't like loud music but atleast there is a reason behind it.
Except that the reason is to lower the value of the conference to make sure that people are not able to make the connections that they were hoping to make.
Smart vendors don't attend either, they go straight to the unofficial events and get loads of time with the customers, where they can actually connect.
having a band was on request of a couple vendors. So not all think that. And not all feel the same way as you either.
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@Breffni-Potter said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Except that the reason is to lower the value of the conference to make sure that people are not able to make the connections that they were hoping to make.
Where is the sense in that?
Because ALL of the profit in the conference is charging for access to customers. if there is free access, how do you charge for the gatekeeping?
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@Breffni-Potter said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Also I control the sound guy so I will have everything at a much lower level than normally at these things.
Control the band first
Electric drum kit
Amps off stage
In ear monitorsSilent stage, you can really control the volume, and the talent will sound miles better.
Are you footing the bill for all that non-standard, expensive gear? You have to specifically request all that stuff when you rent sound, and it all costs extra.
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@Minion-Queen said:
having a band was on request of a couple vendors. So not all think that. And not all feel the same way as you either.
But all are affected by it. The vendors requesting the bands are likely the ones sponsoring, right? It's not vendors just randomly saying "we should have bands instead of time to talk to customers" and getting a band. it's someone saying "we want to pay for a band".
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@RojoLoco said:
@Breffni-Potter said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Also I control the sound guy so I will have everything at a much lower level than normally at these things.
Control the band first
Electric drum kit
Amps off stage
In ear monitorsSilent stage, you can really control the volume, and the talent will sound miles better.
Are you footing the bill for all that non-standard, expensive gear? You have to specifically request all that stuff when you rent sound, and it all costs extra.
Both bands do have electric drums that they do use for smaller specialized venues. So we can def do that .
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@coliver said:
Still unenjoyable for someone who doesn't like loud music but atleast there is a reason behind it.
It's basically hell for extroverts who see all these people that they want to connect to but can't. But my wife is an introvert and loves that the event has something to do that precludes any possibility of talking to people. So she attends them and enjoys the parties.
It's not that they are not fun, but they disrupt a business function, that's the biggest problem. Although now that so many people have learned to just avoid them, they work out better.
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Part of planning something like this is you can't make everyone happy. But I have taken into account the need for some quiet and made sure there was space for that.
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@RojoLoco said:
@Breffni-Potter said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Also I control the sound guy so I will have everything at a much lower level than normally at these things.
Control the band first
Electric drum kit
Amps off stage
In ear monitorsSilent stage, you can really control the volume, and the talent will sound miles better.
Are you footing the bill for all that non-standard, expensive gear? You have to specifically request all that stuff when you rent sound, and it all costs extra.
Only if you are doing it wrong.
Electric Drum kit is up to the act, quite a few bands have one.
Amps off stage, seriously simple.
In ear monitors, can work out cheaper then wedges and they are incredibly standard in the AV world now. -
@Breffni-Potter said:
@RojoLoco said:
@Breffni-Potter said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Also I control the sound guy so I will have everything at a much lower level than normally at these things.
Control the band first
Electric drum kit
Amps off stage
In ear monitorsSilent stage, you can really control the volume, and the talent will sound miles better.
Are you footing the bill for all that non-standard, expensive gear? You have to specifically request all that stuff when you rent sound, and it all costs extra.
Only if you are doing it wrong.
Electric Drum kit is up to the act, quite a few bands have one.
Amps off stage, seriously simple.
In ear monitors, can work out cheaper then wedges and they are incredibly standard in the AV world now.Not standard for most bar bands. Some but very few have in ear. They disconnect you from your audience. I HATE them.
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I guess I'm spoiled by corporate world.
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@Breffni-Potter in-ear may be "standard", but all bars have wedge monitors, and basically all sound rental places do too, in that their "standard" package includes wedges. The use of in ear monitoring is also affected by the type of band that's playing... I don't know any "rock" bands that would use them.
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@RojoLoco said:
I don't know any "rock" bands that would use them.
I don't know any "rock" bands who play at conversational volume either
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@Breffni-Potter That's my point... that whole "reduced stage volume" shit is for the birds... and pop bands, folk artists, etc.
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@RojoLoco said:
@Breffni-Potter That's my point... that whole "reduced stage volume" shit is for the birds... and pop bands, folk artists, etc.
I'll stop before we de-rail the thread anymore
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To get back on topic go the mangocon.it and vote!
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What days are the panels? Will there be panels on Saturday?
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@Dashrender said:
What days are the panels? Will there be panels on Saturday?
Yeah, a wine tasting panel!!
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@Dashrender said:
What days are the panels? Will there be panels on Saturday?
Saturday is just a Hang Out/Networking day. The hope is to go to either Letchworth park or Niagara Falls (your votes decided). Lunch/dinner etc. This will be the really relaxed day of the conference. Not a necessity but fun none the less.
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@Minion-Queen said:
@Dashrender said:
What days are the panels? Will there be panels on Saturday?
Saturday is just a Hang Out/Networking day. The hope is to go to either Letchworth park or Niagara Falls (your votes decided). Lunch/dinner etc. This will be the really relaxed day of the conference. Not a necessity but fun none the less.
Depending on what I can get flights for, I'd bring my wife in for the weekend.
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@Dashrender said:
@Minion-Queen said:
@Dashrender said:
What days are the panels? Will there be panels on Saturday?
Saturday is just a Hang Out/Networking day. The hope is to go to either Letchworth park or Niagara Falls (your votes decided). Lunch/dinner etc. This will be the really relaxed day of the conference. Not a necessity but fun none the less.
Depending on what I can get flights for, I'd bring my wife in for the weekend.
September would be a really good time to visit. Not quite fall yet but cool enough to go out and sight see.
