ZeroTier: is this a good time to use...
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@dafyre said:
@Dashrender said:
then you'll need to give up DHCP so that endpoint IPv6's aren't changing all the time.
<snip>ZT assigns addresses for you. From what I have seen once it has assigned an IP address to a device, that IP does not change.
Once my DHCP server assigns an IP address it also never changes - well, until it does. lol
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@FATeknollogee said:
@Dashrender said:
I'm thinking about the use of something like WSUS inside ZT where WSUS relies on DNS for endpoint connections.
WSUS = Windows Server Update Services?
Yes.
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@Dashrender said:
@dafyre said:
@Dashrender said:
then you'll need to give up DHCP so that endpoint IPv6's aren't changing all the time.
<snip>ZT assigns addresses for you. From what I have seen once it has assigned an IP address to a device, that IP does not change.
Once my DHCP server assigns an IP address it also never changes - well, until it does. lol
Do you have your own DHCP server that handles giving out IP addresses for your ZT network?
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@Dashrender said:
I suppose if you only worry about putting servers IPv6 addresses in DNS, then you're probably OK manually handling that - but if you have to do that for endpoints coming and going all the time, then you'll need to give up DHCP ...
If you let ZT assign IP addresses to the devices on the ZT network, those won't change. So when a device "comes and goes" it will always keep the same ZT IP address no matter where it is connected from.
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I suppose that ZT could be having their DHCP assign static like addresses. So this may not be an issue on ZT.
I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.
Have you disconnected something from ZT for say 20 days and ensured when it came back online that it got the same IP?
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@Dashrender said:
I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.
What's the use case for doing that, though?
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@Dashrender said:
I suppose that ZT could be having their DHCP assign static like addresses. So this may not be an issue on ZT.
I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.
Have you disconnected something from ZT for say 20 days and ensured when it came back online that it got the same IP?
Not quite that long, lol. But I have gone a week or two. It does "DHCP" not really true DHCP. Once I connect my laptop up, it associates that laptop with 192.168.100.5, and until I delete the laptop from my list of ZT devices, it will always get 100.5 -- that's the way it appears to work.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.
What's the use case for doing that, though?
What do you mean? This is the default way windows DHCP works. After the IP lease expires, it simply goes back into the pool.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.
What's the use case for doing that, though?
He's talking about generic DHCP on a LAN.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.
What's the use case for doing that, though?
What do you mean? This is the default way windows DHCP works. After the IP lease expires, it simply goes back into the pool.
The question is... why would you be using it in a ZT scenario? Why have DHCP for ZT addresses at all? What's the end goal?
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@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.
What's the use case for doing that, though?
He's talking about generic DHCP on a LAN.
Correct - I am talking about my LAN. I'm not assigning IPs to the ZT network adapters.
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@Dashrender said:
@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.
What's the use case for doing that, though?
He's talking about generic DHCP on a LAN.
Correct - I am talking about my LAN. I'm not assigning IPs to the ZT network adapters.
Oh, I guess I missed something then.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.
What's the use case for doing that, though?
What do you mean? This is the default way windows DHCP works. After the IP lease expires, it simply goes back into the pool.
The question is... why would you be using it in a ZT scenario? Why have DHCP for ZT addresses at all? What's the end goal?
Yeah I don't, never said I did.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.
What's the use case for doing that, though?
He's talking about generic DHCP on a LAN.
Correct - I am talking about my LAN. I'm not assigning IPs to the ZT network adapters.
Oh, I guess I missed something then.
I was giving @dafyre an example of when IP's change - my LAN based DHCP will give out the same IP to another device after a leas expires.
What we don't know - does the ZT DHCP follow normal protocols and hand out an IP after a lease expires? or does it assign it for life?
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@Dashrender said:
What we don't know - does the ZT DHCP follow normal protocols and hand out an IP after a lease expires? or does it assign it for life?
There is no ZT DHCP. That's where the confusion came from. ZT does not use DHCP, so there is no connection to DHCP-like behaviour. Pertino does not either.
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@anonymous said:
What? Then how do addresses get assigned?
Via the client. Remember that the client talks to the server. No need for something like DHCP.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@anonymous said:
What? Then how do addresses get assigned?
Via the client. Remember that the client talks to the server. No need for something like DHCP.
Scott is correct here. If you check a Windows system with ZT installed, and look at the ipv4 properties of the adapter, you will see that by default the IP address & DNS boxes are set to "static" but they are blank.
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Cool - OK then you can effectively say that the IP assigned on the ZT will never change
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In terms of the gateway feature, is it Linux connector + bridged mode?
