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    Meet our new product: the ioSafe BDR 515

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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1 @Brett at ioSafe
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      @Brett-at-ioSafe Great, I like options!

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      • MattSpellerM
        MattSpeller
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        @Brett-at-ioSafe

        This looks like a neat product!

        I'm curious how it's cooling system works - how do you keep it running day to day and yet prevent it from going nuclear when exposed to fire?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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          @MattSpeller said:

          I'm curious how it's cooling system works - how do you keep it running day to day and yet prevent it from going nuclear when exposed to fire?

          It does not RUN while in a fire, the Ethernet and power cords will melt off. It is the drives and data that are safe. After the fire is out and it has been hosed down from the fire department, you wait till it is cool enough to touch, then you remove the drives and recover the data 🙂

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          • MattSpellerM
            MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller lol

            Allow me to rephrase:

            How do you keep the guts of it cool without allowing any way for heat to ingress while it's in a fire? Is there a door that slams shut when it detects heat? I don't think you could use anything like a heat exchanger (heat pipes, external cooling) because it'd allow heat from the fire to get in and cook the innards.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              The one that we have is still fan based, but it has internal redirection so it can't such fire directly in. The drives don't have to be kept cool like the mobo. The mobo can melt, that's not a big deal. It's the drives you have to protect. And I think part of the strategy is once it hits fire, the fan is molten and no longer sucking outside air.

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              • MattSpellerM
                MattSpeller
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                @Brett-at-ioSafe

                Ohhhh I just had a thought...

                Do you keep the electronics on the outside and put the drives into the fire protected bit?

                That'd make it way easier - let the electronics cook and save the drives. Drives don't produce much heat and wouldn't require a lot of cooling.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Yup, that's how it works 🙂

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                  • MattSpellerM
                    MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller wicked - as usual I over complicated it heheh

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                    • travisdh1T
                      travisdh1 @MattSpeller
                      last edited by travisdh1

                      @MattSpeller said:

                      @scottalanmiller lol

                      Allow me to rephrase:

                      How do you keep the guts of it cool without allowing any way for heat to ingress while it's in a fire? Is there a door that slams shut when it detects heat? I don't think you could use anything like a heat exchanger (heat pipes, external cooling) because it'd allow heat from the fire to get in and cook the innards.

                      This is assuming it works the same way all of their other products do. They have some sort of liquid embedded in some insulating material inside the case. When in a fire, the liquid material evaporates. This creates positive pressure inside the case keeping the flames out, and provides a cool (comparatively) substance flowing over the internal components.

                      I'm forgetting how they take care of the water immersion.

                      Edit: yes, they only protect the storage, not the electronics.

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                        Brett at ioSafe Vendor @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller The BDR 515 is an entire Windows installation as a standard server. The BMC feature has full console redirection and can be used as a method to replicate full keyboard/mouse/monitor functions on the network. Remote desktop can also be enabled as a service if you desire but it is not enabled by default. On the ioSafe Cloud: the partner manages the ioSafe Cloud target system via VPN/dedicated IP address into the remote system via remote desktop or even though the BMC – all traffic is pulled through an encrypted VPN tunnel.

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                          Brett at ioSafe Vendor @travisdh1
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                          @travisdh1 Yup, that's basically how it works. The insulating material is water-based and converts to steam during a fire, resulting in an endothermic cooling action. Additionally, the steam is forced out of the events which prevents heat from entering the unit. As for waterproofing, the drives are simply in a sealed box that relies on finned walls to conduct heat away during normal operation.

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