Some thoughts about Security
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@scottalanmiller What about monitoring?
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@dafyre How hard is it to install for a noob like me?
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@anonymous said:
@dafyre How hard is it to install for a noob like me?
It takes a little bit of work to get it going, but it's not too bad. They have packages available at http://www.zabbix.com/download.php
Documentation is at that link too... just download the docs for whichever Distro you are using. I'll be happy to help if you hit any snags.
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@dafyre Thanks!
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@Dashrender said:
@anonymous said:
The funny thing is someone would that it has value, because of all the work you put into protecting it
While some people might think that because of your extreme protections it has value, the reality is that most hackers won't bother - they will move on to easier targets.
Those who would be willing to go to nearly any length are probably doing so because they Know it's value, and that value is greater than the cost of them getting the data.
How about the port forwarding a customer of mine had for RDP, FTP, SMTP, HTTP, and HTTPS to their exchange server? Sounds like an easy target.... Makes sense why I saw 10,000 sessions coming from Russia and Poland IP's through their router to the exchange server.
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@quicky2g said:
@Dashrender said:
@anonymous said:
The funny thing is someone would that it has value, because of all the work you put into protecting it
While some people might think that because of your extreme protections it has value, the reality is that most hackers won't bother - they will move on to easier targets.
Those who would be willing to go to nearly any length are probably doing so because they Know it's value, and that value is greater than the cost of them getting the data.
How about the port forwarding a customer of mine had for RDP, FTP, SMTP, HTTP, and HTTPS to their exchange server? Sounds like an easy target.... Makes sense why I saw 10,000 sessions coming from Russia and Poland IP's through their router to the exchange server.
cough it got hacked cough
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@anonymous said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Well think about building a lab. You want a storage device, jump box and logging kind of at a minimum. That's three.
I don't have a storage device or logging yet. What do you recommend? And what do you mean by a storage device? Like for shared /home?
I do so much with syslog at home it's ridiculous. syslog-ng to MySQL database with custom written PHP front-end. Works like a charm. Have been using it for a few customers too. 0 cost to me or my company and way better than all those crappy Kiwi imitators logging to a flat text file with minimal searching. Try logging 10 ASA's to Kiwi for a week then searching for inbound/outbound connections for a single IP....not going to happen.
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@quicky2g said:
@anonymous said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Well think about building a lab. You want a storage device, jump box and logging kind of at a minimum. That's three.
I don't have a storage device or logging yet. What do you recommend? And what do you mean by a storage device? Like for shared /home?
I do so much with syslog at home it's ridiculous. syslog-ng to MySQL database with custom written PHP front-end. Works like a charm. Have been using it for a few customers too. 0 cost to me or my company and way better than all those crappy Kiwi imitators logging to a flat text file with minimal searching. Try logging 10 ASA's to Kiwi for a week then searching for inbound/outbound connections for a single IP....not going to happen.
Yeah, can't imagine ever using Kiwi. What made you decide to not use ELK but to write something custom?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@quicky2g said:
@anonymous said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Well think about building a lab. You want a storage device, jump box and logging kind of at a minimum. That's three.
I don't have a storage device or logging yet. What do you recommend? And what do you mean by a storage device? Like for shared /home?
I do so much with syslog at home it's ridiculous. syslog-ng to MySQL database with custom written PHP front-end. Works like a charm. Have been using it for a few customers too. 0 cost to me or my company and way better than all those crappy Kiwi imitators logging to a flat text file with minimal searching. Try logging 10 ASA's to Kiwi for a week then searching for inbound/outbound connections for a single IP....not going to happen.
Yeah, can't imagine ever using Kiwi. What made you decide to not use ELK but to write something custom?
Never heard of ELK. Will have to check it out. Wrote the custom one a while ago and never found a reason to use anything else. Super lightweight and can export to Excel. Log analysis and visual stats would be nice though.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@quicky2g http://mangolassi.it/topic/5364/showing-off-our-new-elk-install
Do you use the real-time dashboard from this guys article?
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Not yet, ours is pretty basic right now, but going to be doing a lot more with it soon, hopefully.
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I'm currently installing mine again. I tried about 2 weeks ago and there were issues since they had just switched from the forwarder to filebeat.
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How does filebeat compare for how it is used?
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@Reid-Cooper said:
How does filebeat compare for how it is used?
I'm not done building yet so I can't say. Here's what they say the changes are,
Filebeat introduces the following major changes:
The config file was restructured and converted from JSON to YAML.
The registry file, which stores the state of the currently read files, was changed.
Command line options were removed and moved to the configuration file.
Configuration options for outputs are now inherited from libbeat. For details, see the Beats Platform Reference.
A new Logstash input plugin called logstash-input-beats is required.It doesn't seem like you would notice a difference.
