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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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      @IT-ADMIN said:

      i have to pay for a windows server licence or not???

      Sort of. You pay a monthly fee for the server and the license is included. You don't buy a license, but the cost of the service includes the license. So in a way you pay for it, but you don't need to worry about getting a license.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        How much memory does your application server use today? And I assume that it is running on Windows, hence the question about the license.

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          IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @IT-ADMIN said:

          i have to pay for a windows server licence or not???

          Sort of. You pay a monthly fee for the server and the license is included. You don't buy a license, but the cost of the service includes the license. So in a way you pay for it, but you don't need to worry about getting a license.

          yes Mr Scott, i full understand you, thank you very much for you tireless efforts to propose new ideas

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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            @IT-ADMIN said:

            yes Mr Scott, i full understand you, thank you very much for you tireless efforts to propose new ideas

            Glad to help, gives me a nice break from cleaning the house which is what I am doing when not typing.

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              IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              How much memory does your application server use today? And I assume that it is running on Windows, hence the question about the license.

              the size taken by the application installation is 105 MB and the database is about 100 MB

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                IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
                last edited by IT-ADMIN

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @IT-ADMIN said:

                yes Mr Scott, i full understand you, thank you very much for you tireless efforts to propose new ideas

                Glad to help, gives me a nice break from cleaning the house which is what I am doing when not typing.

                hhhh, can i help you in your cleaning, i'm professional at this

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                • IT-ADMINI
                  IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  How much memory does your application server use today? And I assume that it is running on Windows, hence the question about the license.

                  yes the application is running on windows server 2008 R2, and use SQL Server for database, and the server is joined to our Domain,

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                    IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    yes Sir i'm an arabic speaker, did you heard about Morocco before

                    LOL, yes I know Morocco. We are actually thinking about going there later this year. I've never been there but have been as close as Madrid and Lisbon. My family is considering spending a month in Spain this year and if we do we will certainly hop the ferry over to Morocco too. But we haven't settled on Spain for this year. We are also considering Croatia and are known to change our minds dramatically at the last minute. Although with only a few months left to go, we need to decide pretty soon. Those are our two most likely locations for this year. Partially it will depend if I am attending VMWorld in Barcelona or not.

                    i hope you enjoy your stay in morocco

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      How much memory does your application server use today? And I assume that it is running on Windows, hence the question about the license.

                      the size taken by the application installation is 105 MB and the database is about 100 MB

                      Seems like a 2GB system might be enough. 4GB at most. From Rackspace that is $73/mo for their performance one tier with SSD storage in RAID 10 for crazy IOPS and 400Mb/s network connection. To go to 4GB of RAM is $146/mo.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                        last edited by

                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        yes Mr Scott, i full understand you, thank you very much for you tireless efforts to propose new ideas

                        Glad to help, gives me a nice break from cleaning the house which is what I am doing when not typing.

                        hhhh, can i help you in your cleaning, i'm professional at this

                        Come on over! We will have this place clean in no time.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @IT-ADMIN
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                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          do you mean by not relying on DDNS that i have to change the IP myself in each IP change ????

                          With OpenVPN you can have one side always be the initiator, thus you do not need a static IP at both ends. IPSEC lets you do this to, but I always have bad luck with it.

                          I only skimmed the rest of the thread with Scott, but it looks like you may not be able to get a static IP at either office? that does make it difficult. In that instance I would change the remote office to be the side always initiating things, then you can always know that you only have to handle NDS changes when the main office gets a new IP.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @JaredBusch said:

                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            do you mean by not relying on DDNS that i have to change the IP myself in each IP change ????

                            With OpenVPN you can have one side always be the initiator, thus you do not need a static IP at both ends. IPSEC lets you do this to, but I always have bad luck with it.

                            I only skimmed the rest of the thread with Scott, but it looks like you may not be able to get a static IP at either office? that does make it difficult. In that instance I would change the remote office to be the side always initiating things, then you can always know that you only have to handle NDS changes when the main office gets a new IP.

                            Correct, neither end has static.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
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                              I cannot edit my post now, because you replied I assume? this is bad.. I see a typo.. NDS.... /sigh

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @JaredBusch said:

                                I cannot edit my post now, because you replied I assume? this is bad.. I see a typo.. NDS.... /sigh

                                I can edit my old posts just above your reply. I can't figure out why you don't see an edit option.

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                                • PSX_DefectorP
                                  PSX_Defector @IT-ADMIN
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                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  in the future we can think about hosting our data (files) in the cloud, but what about Application server, this is the problem we cannot install our application in an outside server in the cloud,

                                  For legal reasons?

                                  honestly i don't know, but i think that the IT company that sold us this application will not accept to install it in an hosted server as far as i can see

                                  Then you don't tell them, silly. 🙂

                                  I can tell you that using a hosted server would solve your issue pretty well. It would give you a point to relay both offices off of to bridge the networks together. Our company also gives you the option of naming your server whatever you want. So match it to your naming convention within your current environment, use it as your VPN/Application server, and have the company install it as if it was within your own environment. Most of these kinds of things, the guys installing it are complete and utter morons, they will never figure it out.

                                  Or, if push comes to shove, just use a P2V utility like Vmware Converter on your current install, be it physical or virtual, spin up a cloud server and upload the image to it. No muss, no fuss.

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                                  • PSX_DefectorP
                                    PSX_Defector @IT-ADMIN
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                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    yes Sir i'm an arabic speaker, did you heard about Morocco before

                                    Just Morocco Mole.

                                    mole.jpg

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                                      IT-ADMIN @PSX_Defector
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                                      @PSX_Defector said:

                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      yes Sir i'm an arabic speaker, did you heard about Morocco before

                                      Just Morocco Mole.

                                      mole.jpg

                                      ooooooh, great i didn't imagine that morocco is well known even to US citizen

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                                        IT-ADMIN @PSX_Defector
                                        last edited by

                                        @PSX_Defector said:

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        in the future we can think about hosting our data (files) in the cloud, but what about Application server, this is the problem we cannot install our application in an outside server in the cloud,

                                        For legal reasons?

                                        honestly i don't know, but i think that the IT company that sold us this application will not accept to install it in an hosted server as far as i can see

                                        Then you don't tell them, silly. 🙂

                                        I can tell you that using a hosted server would solve your issue pretty well. It would give you a point to relay both offices off of to bridge the networks together. Our company also gives you the option of naming your server whatever you want. So match it to your naming convention within your current environment, use it as your VPN/Application server, and have the company install it as if it was within your own environment. Most of these kinds of things, the guys installing it are complete and utter morons, they will never figure it out.

                                        Or, if push comes to shove, just use a P2V utility like Vmware Converter on your current install, be it physical or virtual, spin up a cloud server and upload the image to it. No muss, no fuss.

                                        hhh, i understand almost 50% of what you have said, i think that you used deep slang american language,

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                                        • PSX_DefectorP
                                          PSX_Defector @IT-ADMIN
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                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          @PSX_Defector said:

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          in the future we can think about hosting our data (files) in the cloud, but what about Application server, this is the problem we cannot install our application in an outside server in the cloud,

                                          For legal reasons?

                                          honestly i don't know, but i think that the IT company that sold us this application will not accept to install it in an hosted server as far as i can see

                                          Then you don't tell them, silly. 🙂

                                          I can tell you that using a hosted server would solve your issue pretty well. It would give you a point to relay both offices off of to bridge the networks together. Our company also gives you the option of naming your server whatever you want. So match it to your naming convention within your current environment, use it as your VPN/Application server, and have the company install it as if it was within your own environment. Most of these kinds of things, the guys installing it are complete and utter morons, they will never figure it out.

                                          Or, if push comes to shove, just use a P2V utility like Vmware Converter on your current install, be it physical or virtual, spin up a cloud server and upload the image to it. No muss, no fuss.

                                          hhh, i understand almost 50% of what you have said, i think that you used deep slang american language,

                                          Wouldn't be the first time someone said my english skills were not up to par for non-english speakers. Imagine attempting to teach someone the Texas Two Step who has no idea where Texas even is. 🙂

                                          I work with Vmware, so this info will be more Vmware specific.

                                          http://www.vmware.com/products/converter

                                          Use this to build a copy of your current server with the application installed. Upload it to your provider of choice. Then shutdown your old server, turn on the new server, then setup a VPN connection between your sites and the hosted server. Eliminate both the issue with dynamic IPs between your sites and host your application in a place where you can access it anywhere in the world. It makes things a lot easier and eliminates the vendor from knowing that you changed up the server.

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                                          • PSX_DefectorP
                                            PSX_Defector @IT-ADMIN
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                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            @PSX_Defector said:

                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            yes Sir i'm an arabic speaker, did you heard about Morocco before

                                            Just Morocco Mole.

                                            mole.jpg

                                            ooooooh, great i didn't imagine that morocco is well known even to US citizen

                                            Oh I've taken many a trip down the Marrakesh Express, شكرا بزاف 🙂

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