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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      It DEFINITELY bills when stopped. It does NOT bill when deleted. Deleted is obviously stopped, saying stopped implies that it still exists.

      Is "Stopped Deallocated" deleted?

      I have no idea. Is that a term that someone uses?

      Simple question is... can it be turned back on? If so, then no. The ability to turn back on means you didn't stop paying.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller

        It has been the state of the machine is in Stopped (Deallocated) means that you have made a shutdown by Web Management Interface Azure ( SHUTDOWN BUTTON ). In this way the cost of virtual machine will not be charged, but the public and internal IP will be deleted.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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          @BRRABill said:

          @scottalanmiller

          It has been the state of the machine is in Stopped (Deallocated) means that you have made a shutdown by Web Management Interface Azure ( SHUTDOWN BUTTON ). In this way the cost of virtual machine will not be charged, but the public and internal IP will be deleted.

          If that is the wording from Azure then it is new. The last time I powered down an instance on there, which was not all that long ago, they stated very clearly that you would be charged in that instance.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            This implies that you now get free storage? So you could put a 1TB file server up there, power it down and it is free for forever?

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              This implies that you now get free storage? So you could put a 1TB file server up there, power it down and it is free for forever?

              Seems like perhaps you are indeed still charged for storage.

              Though since the plans come with storage I don't know what that means.

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                Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                This implies that you now get free storage? So you could put a 1TB file server up there, power it down and it is free for forever?

                They give us free storage on Stand by servers. but, I don't think that is normal. I think the normal way is you get billed for storage on shutdown servers.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Jason
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                  @Jason said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  This implies that you now get free storage? So you could put a 1TB file server up there, power it down and it is free for forever?

                  They give us free storage on Stand by servers. but, I don't think that is normal. I think the normal way is you get billed for storage on shutdown servers.

                  We always have. But maybe they changed it.

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                  • RamblingBipedR
                    RamblingBiped
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                    Update:

                    Pulled the trigger and went with this build: http://www.ebay.com/itm/231784944527

                    It has the H700 raid controller, a fair amount of memory, and an internal SD Card module. I purchased a ~$120 lot of 4 used 1TB disks for storage.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Nice. That will be fun.

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                      • RamblingBipedR
                        RamblingBiped @RamblingBiped
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                        Server arrived early and everything was as expected. I've got XenServer installed and my first VM deployed. So little work required to configure everything. Install from the XenServer iso and most everything is done!

                        I spun up and configured an OpenVPN server on a CentOS 7 minimal install and had VPN connectivity to my home network in no time!

                        I must say I like XenCenter on Windows 10. I've previously been using virt-manager (when not using qemu-img and virsh at the console) with the KVM hypervisors I work with, but wow is XenCenter more polished.

                        As soon as I have time I'm going to sit down and deploy/configure a XenOrchestra VM and compare the functionality between XenCenter and XO firsthand. I also plan to get the backup vm backup script in place and setup. A near-future project may involve configuring an old HP Desktop to function as a BSD-based NAS for storing backups...

                        Anywho... Thanks again for all of the input, I'm pleased with the outcome thus far.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
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                          I'm actually setting up an XO VM right now...

                          Great minds.

                          From what I saw though, in a future release (coming soon...) they are building in incremental backup functionality to XO.

                          Which is AWESOME.

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