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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      So my dad, who still does not have a smart phone and so texts rather a bit is staying with me this week. And what I've learned from him is that he gets more spam texts than I get spam emails (close, but he gets more.) It's not that he gets a lot, but I don't get a lot of spam email either. But I can blacklist and report spam. His phone doesn't allow him to block or report spam so it just keeps coming. He has no means of stopping it.

      Just this morning he got woken up at 3:30am by a spam text.

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      • Minion QueenM
        Minion Queen Banned @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @Carnival-Boy said:

        Do you use SIM cards in the US or is it something different?

        I do because I'm not in the US. But by and large, it's hit and miss. Verizon is by far the biggest US carrier and they do not have GSM or SIM cards. The next two biggest carriers, AT&T and TMobile, are GSM and do use SIMs. Smaller carriers are more or less random.

        All of our Iphones since the 4s's have had SIM cards in them (yes we are on Verizon).

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
          last edited by

          @Minion-Queen said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Carnival-Boy said:

          Do you use SIM cards in the US or is it something different?

          I do because I'm not in the US. But by and large, it's hit and miss. Verizon is by far the biggest US carrier and they do not have GSM or SIM cards. The next two biggest carriers, AT&T and TMobile, are GSM and do use SIMs. Smaller carriers are more or less random.

          All of our Iphones since the 4s's have had SIM cards in them (yes we are on Verizon).

          @Minion-Queen said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Carnival-Boy said:

          Do you use SIM cards in the US or is it something different?

          I do because I'm not in the US. But by and large, it's hit and miss. Verizon is by far the biggest US carrier and they do not have GSM or SIM cards. The next two biggest carriers, AT&T and TMobile, are GSM and do use SIMs. Smaller carriers are more or less random.

          All of our Iphones since the 4s's have had SIM cards in them (yes we are on Verizon).

          They dont use them, though, until you travel. It's their international option.

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          • Minion QueenM
            Minion Queen Banned @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Minion-Queen said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Carnival-Boy said:

            Do you use SIM cards in the US or is it something different?

            I do because I'm not in the US. But by and large, it's hit and miss. Verizon is by far the biggest US carrier and they do not have GSM or SIM cards. The next two biggest carriers, AT&T and TMobile, are GSM and do use SIMs. Smaller carriers are more or less random.

            All of our Iphones since the 4s's have had SIM cards in them (yes we are on Verizon).

            @Minion-Queen said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Carnival-Boy said:

            Do you use SIM cards in the US or is it something different?

            I do because I'm not in the US. But by and large, it's hit and miss. Verizon is by far the biggest US carrier and they do not have GSM or SIM cards. The next two biggest carriers, AT&T and TMobile, are GSM and do use SIMs. Smaller carriers are more or less random.

            All of our Iphones since the 4s's have had SIM cards in them (yes we are on Verizon).

            They dont use them, though, until you travel. It's their international option.

            Huh? The phone has a SIM card in it. If you take the SIM card out you have no service of any kind...

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
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              Didnt read the entire post, but I'm just going out on a limb and going to say that most people don't care if they're mimicking telegraph when we have modern solutions.

              It's a simple, discrete means to communicate with someone rather than technologies like Facetime. Plus it's very intuitive to use.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @Minion Queen
                last edited by

                @Minion-Queen said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @Minion-Queen said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @Carnival-Boy said:

                Do you use SIM cards in the US or is it something different?

                I do because I'm not in the US. But by and large, it's hit and miss. Verizon is by far the biggest US carrier and they do not have GSM or SIM cards. The next two biggest carriers, AT&T and TMobile, are GSM and do use SIMs. Smaller carriers are more or less random.

                All of our Iphones since the 4s's have had SIM cards in them (yes we are on Verizon).

                @Minion-Queen said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @Carnival-Boy said:

                Do you use SIM cards in the US or is it something different?

                I do because I'm not in the US. But by and large, it's hit and miss. Verizon is by far the biggest US carrier and they do not have GSM or SIM cards. The next two biggest carriers, AT&T and TMobile, are GSM and do use SIMs. Smaller carriers are more or less random.

                All of our Iphones since the 4s's have had SIM cards in them (yes we are on Verizon).

                They dont use them, though, until you travel. It's their international option.

                Huh? The phone has a SIM card in it. If you take the SIM card out you have no service of any kind...

                You could very easily have WiFi service. . .

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                • Minion QueenM
                  Minion Queen Banned @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 Well yes when you are on a Wifi network that you use. But without the SIM card your cell phone number will not work.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @Minion Queen
                    last edited by DustinB3403

                    @Minion-Queen said:

                    @DustinB3403 Well yes when you are on a Wifi network that you use. But without the SIM card your cell phone number will not work.

                    Not the primary number, this is true.

                    You could sign up for a free Google Voice number, which is purely Internet Based. And simply pay Google for the cost of any calling minutes used. Texting is free, unlimited.

                    This would make it a purely WiFi Cell phone.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
                      last edited by

                      @Minion-Queen said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Minion-Queen said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Carnival-Boy said:

                      Do you use SIM cards in the US or is it something different?

                      I do because I'm not in the US. But by and large, it's hit and miss. Verizon is by far the biggest US carrier and they do not have GSM or SIM cards. The next two biggest carriers, AT&T and TMobile, are GSM and do use SIMs. Smaller carriers are more or less random.

                      All of our Iphones since the 4s's have had SIM cards in them (yes we are on Verizon).

                      @Minion-Queen said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Carnival-Boy said:

                      Do you use SIM cards in the US or is it something different?

                      I do because I'm not in the US. But by and large, it's hit and miss. Verizon is by far the biggest US carrier and they do not have GSM or SIM cards. The next two biggest carriers, AT&T and TMobile, are GSM and do use SIMs. Smaller carriers are more or less random.

                      All of our Iphones since the 4s's have had SIM cards in them (yes we are on Verizon).

                      They dont use them, though, until you travel. It's their international option.

                      Huh? The phone has a SIM card in it. If you take the SIM card out you have no service of any kind...

                      That's weird. I've had a lot of Verizon phones and the SIM card was always optional. I've had them and only added SIM cards later, remove them when not needed. Never affected how it worked in the US.

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                      • Minion QueenM
                        Minion Queen Banned
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                        Yes they are how all the Iphones and windows phones (ha ha ha) run now on Verizon. The SIM card does need to be changed to travel internationally however.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @Minion Queen
                          last edited by

                          @Minion-Queen said:

                          Yes they are how all the Iphones and windows phones (ha ha ha) run now on Verizon. The SIM card does need to be changed to travel internationally however.

                          All Verizon 4G Android phones have the micro-SIM card in them as well. You are required to have that installed and activated to use any of their cell networks.

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                          • brianlittlejohnB
                            brianlittlejohn
                            last edited by

                            Verizon requires a SIM for any LTE device. The older CDMA didn't use SIM cards.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @brianlittlejohn
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                              @brianlittlejohn said:

                              Verizon requires a SIM for any LTE device. The older CDMA didn't use SIM cards.

                              That's the kicker right there! Scott never worried about SIM cards because they weren't used until LTE came along. LTE is what requires them.

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                              • PSX_DefectorP
                                PSX_Defector @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                That's weird. I've had a lot of Verizon phones and the SIM card was always optional. I've had them and only added SIM cards later, remove them when not needed. Never affected how it worked in the US.

                                It was part of the change with moving over to LTE.

                                "Technically" you can use an AT&T SIM on a Verizon phone to access AT&T's LTE service, depending on the device and if it can hit the right channels. The base services are still CDMA for voice and other data services, but get info from the SIM for registration versus the old school IMEI info. There are registration issues and various other things that make it not work, but LTE follows GSM encoding so in theory it will work.

                                Devices designed around GSM usually can't talk CDMA, but since CMDA is a limited market most of their devices also speak GSM. All under one SIM.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @brianlittlejohn said:

                                  Verizon requires a SIM for any LTE device. The older CDMA didn't use SIM cards.

                                  That's the kicker right there! Scott never worried about SIM cards because they weren't used until LTE came along. LTE is what requires them.

                                  I had already moved to TMobile at that point, I think. I had SIM cards in my Verizon phones before then going back to 2007 because of my travel.

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by MattSpeller

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @brianlittlejohn said:

                                    Verizon requires a SIM for any LTE device. The older CDMA didn't use SIM cards.

                                    That's the kicker right there! Scott never worried about SIM cards because they weren't used until LTE came along. LTE is what requires them.

                                    Scott never worried about SIM cards because they weren't used much in the USA until GSM finally defeated CDMA/TDMA/Analog.

                                    Fixed.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      More that I didn't worry about them because I had to have them anyway for European usage so didn't notice when the US phones changed because the last time I looked at Verizon they were still making a point of offering a limited selection of SIM card enabled GSM phones for that purpose.

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                                      • J
                                        Jason Banned
                                        last edited by

                                        Even with my non-contract plan has unlimited texts. Very few plans don't have unlimited texting.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Jason
                                          last edited by

                                          @Jason said:

                                          Even with my non-contract plan has unlimited texts. Very few plans don't have unlimited texting.

                                          Today, yes, that is getting to be very true. Outside of the US I'm still finding it to be less common, they still sell "numbers of texts" packages on every block at every pulperia.

                                          No idea what Europe does. I assume unlimited there.

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                                          • Minion QueenM
                                            Minion Queen Banned
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                                            When we were in Africa we had to buy cell phone credit constantly. Texts were FAR cheaper than calling so most everyone texted.

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