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      ntoxicator
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      Need to re-think the site, makes me look stupid? Idk.

      says TRY NOW, NO CREDIT CARD REQUIRED!!!! and then... no pricing model/structure

      I called about a month ago as a customer of mine was looking for a business backup option... called and spoke with a rep. said their new CEO was cutting options and making it ONLY for enterprise as small business wasnt generating enough revenue. so we ended convo

      Said it had to be over so many seats. As I just wanted a single server and XXX amount of data to backup. Did not want to help me. So carbonite, again received my business.

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        BRRABill @ntoxicator
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        @ntoxicator

        Interesting.

        I haven't experienced anything, or heard anything.

        Will wait and see I guess...

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          scottalanmiller
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          I've only used CrashPlan in the free "machine to machine" model. No experience beyond that.

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            scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
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            @ntoxicator said:

            Need to re-think the site, makes me look stupid? Idk.

            says TRY NOW, NO CREDIT CARD REQUIRED!!!! and then... no pricing model/structure

            I called about a month ago as a customer of mine was looking for a business backup option... called and spoke with a rep. said their new CEO was cutting options and making it ONLY for enterprise as small business wasnt generating enough revenue. so we ended convo

            Said it had to be over so many seats. As I just wanted a single server and XXX amount of data to backup. Did not want to help me. So carbonite, again received my business.

            There really isn't any money in small business for that kind of stuff, sadly.

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              aaron-closed account Banned
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                JaredBusch
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                With any solution like this, you can backup anything you want, you just have to use a linked folder. I have no idea why this is not better known in the Windows world, but it has existed for a long time.

                I backup my NAS at home with my CrashPlan account ($60/year) this way.

                For one client with a small Veeam repository, I backup their entire local repository (a NAS) with CrashPlan Pro ($10/month) I simply have a linked folder sitting there.

                mklink /J C:\Veeam \\nas\Veeam
                

                Then you point CrashPlan at C:\Veeam

                I began abusing this years and years ago to get around DropBox issues.

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                  scottalanmiller
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                  I think that linked folders are not just poorly known as a workaround to this specific issue but are, in general, not well known. I never see people talking about them or using them.

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                    Dashrender
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                    Of course this opens you to a cryptolocker problem.

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                      scottalanmiller
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                      Your NAS would be open to that by the nature of being able to be linked in this way.

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                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Your NAS would be open to that by the nature of being able to be linked in this way.

                        Yeah I suppose so.

                        Best to have a dedicated account on that share that has write ability and don't log in anywhere I possible as that user...

                        The backup software runs as that user... The link could be setup with a read only account.

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                          JaredBusch
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                          Crypto is not a problem. you simply restore a prior version.

                          https://i.imgur.com/7ygPhoy.jpg

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                            NetworkNerd
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                            We use Backblaze for Business and have for a couple of years now (the domain license that Aaron mentions). I had been using it at home on my wife's computer (2 internal drives and an external HD backed up for $50 per year) when I found out they had a business option. We have around 30 pcs in the account now, mostly C-level and outside sales computers on which you are most likely going to find local files of a very important nature. It definitely works really well, and I do like the alerts for when machines have not backed up in X number of days. You get a weekly alert for all computers in the account telling you the last backup of each machine, how much data may be left to backup based on change rates, etc.

                            The web portal for restores is easy to use. The only thing missing from Backblaze in my opinion is the ability to store file revisions as well as Crashplan does (allowing specific retention period for revisions to be backed up). That is why I like Crashplan better for some use cases (i.e. backing up the server with all of our enterprise software). I must say Backblaze has worked very well for us thus far based on our use case.

                            I am definitely curious about B2 like others here.

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                              Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch said:

                              Crypto is not a problem. you simply restore a prior version.

                              Sure you can restore the files, But that mean waiting for the Veeam Zip backup to come back to the local network before performing other restores from that specific file.

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                                JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said:

                                @JaredBusch said:

                                Crypto is not a problem. you simply restore a prior version.

                                Sure you can restore the files, But that mean waiting for the Veeam Zip backup to come back to the local network before performing other restores from that specific file.

                                And so?

                                The entire point of this thread is an offsite backup a solution. You will always be waiting if you need to resort to it for restoral. This is not a thread about general backup or what is best for crypto recovery.

                                Offsite backup should never replace onsite.

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                                  Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                                  @JaredBusch said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @JaredBusch said:

                                  Crypto is not a problem. you simply restore a prior version.

                                  Sure you can restore the files, But that mean waiting for the Veeam Zip backup to come back to the local network before performing other restores from that specific file.

                                  And so?

                                  The entire point of this thread is an offsite backup a solution. You will always be waiting if you need to resort to it for restoral. This is not a thread about general backup or what is best for crypto recovery.

                                  Offsite backup should never replace onsite.

                                  You're right, it's not about general backup or crypto recovery, but I think crypto recovery should be part of the consideration. Because of the SMB/NFS type sharing crypto badness makes it more likely you'll have to resort to your offsite backups versus other options you could implement.

                                  Isn't it equally important to setup your environment to use the quickest backup available assuming that doing so doesn't drive the price over the edge, etc?

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                                    BRRABill @NetworkNerd
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                                    @NetworkNerd said:

                                    The web portal for restores is easy to use. The only thing missing from Backblaze in my opinion is the ability to store file revisions as well as Crashplan does (allowing specific retention period for revisions to be backed up). That is why I like Crashplan better for some use cases (i.e. backing up the server with all of our enterprise software). I must say Backblaze has worked very well for us thus far based on our use case.

                                    Can you explain this a little more? About the revisions?

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                                      BRRABill @NetworkNerd
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                                      @NetworkNerd said:

                                      We have around 30 pcs in the account now, mostly C-level and outside sales computers on which you are most likely going to find local files of a very important nature.

                                      See @scottalanmiller, it;s not just me. 🙂

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                                        BRRABill @aaron-closed account
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                                        @aaron said:

                                        (Win -- not server OS -- & Mac)

                                        How does it back up servers?

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                                          aaron-closed account Banned @BRRABill
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                                            BRRABill @aaron-closed account
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                                            @aaron said:

                                            The Backblaze backup client for personal backup and business is not meant to backup servers, it's targeted for individual computers.

                                            Is it allowed to backup servers?

                                            We used to do a regular backup, but also had CrashPlan running on the servers. For $10 a month it was a nice way to do versioning offsite.

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