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      scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
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      @ntoxicator said:

      LENOVO & the Lenovo IBM Server X were thecheapest so far

      So is slapping a whitebox desktop in there. Still crazy 😉

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        ntoxicator
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        Thanks everyone for continued input 🙂

        Lenovo & Sever X are now off the list and will not be mentioned again or brought up for pricing.

        I can re-provision these NAS units for back-up targets as suggested. Keep what is already here and then spend the money to do HA-setup using localized storage on the nodes

        Its getting the CEO to pull bandaid off and spend some $$. We generate plenty in gross revenue and plenty to spare for net profit. 50 grand worth of new equipment I think would not be all that bad considering it can left in production for probably 4+ years

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          Aconboy @ntoxicator
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          @ntoxicator - for that kind of money, I could put in a cluster at the primary site, and cluster at a DR site, and have real time replication with failover and failback (and likely still have beer money left over).

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            ntoxicator @Aconboy
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            @Aconboy

            Cool! 🙂 Would this be HC-Scale you're talking?

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              Aconboy @ntoxicator
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              @ntoxicator yup. Straight list on a 2000 series 3 node cluster (before discounting) is ~35k, and a 1000 series is ~25k.... not hard to get there at all.

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                coliver @ntoxicator
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                @ntoxicator said:

                Thanks everyone for continued input 🙂

                Lenovo & Sever X are now off the list and will not be mentioned again or brought up for pricing.

                I can re-provision these NAS units for back-up targets as suggested. Keep what is already here and then spend the money to do HA-setup using localized storage on the nodes

                Its getting the CEO to pull bandaid off and spend some $$. We generate plenty in gross revenue and plenty to spare for net profit. 50 grand worth of new equipment I think would not be all that bad considering it can left in production for probably 4+ years

                Holy crap $50K? I wish I had that kind of budget in the past!

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                  ntoxicator @Aconboy
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                  @Aconboy - nice!

                  I thought was going to be more than that..... next week lets maybe get together for webinar and review. like to see the entire rundown

                  also there any documentation on migrating from XenServer VM to HC scale? Or does it support the same disk image

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                    Dashrender
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                    While a Scale solution would be awesome... it just seems like overkill.

                    But if HA is really that important to the CEO, he has little choice I suppose.

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                      Dashrender @coliver
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                      @coliver said:

                      Holy crap $50K? I wish I had that kind of budget in the past!

                      Where's my 1 Million likes button?

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                        Aconboy @ntoxicator
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                        @ntoxicator I can directly import .qcow2 images. Where are you located in the country and I will have a guy ping you directly

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                          ntoxicator @coliver
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                          @coliver

                          I'm anticipating 50k budget. Considering the millions of dollars we're grossing. They made comment of wanting something that will hold out until 2018 or so. To support ~300-400 employee's

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                            ntoxicator @Aconboy
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                            @Aconboy - East Coast.... Florida

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                              JaredBusch @ntoxicator
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                              @ntoxicator said:

                              @coliver

                              I'm anticipating 50k budget. Considering the millions of dollars we're grossing. They made comment of wanting something that will hold out until 2018 or so. To support ~300-400 employee's

                              Then just do what we all told you to do and buy Scale gear.

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                                ntoxicator
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                                We have a local data center down the road as well.. I've been wanting to negotiate shared rack space for power + BW as alternative backup area or for future hosting needs. That is separate topic for another day. Sure I'll get flamed for that one lol.

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                                  JaredBusch @ntoxicator
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                                  @ntoxicator said:

                                  We have a local data center down the road as well.. I've been wanting to negotiate shared rack space for power + BW as alternative backup area or for future hosting needs. That is separate topic for another day. Sure I'll get flamed for that one lol.

                                  I'll flame it right here.. You don't negotiate for shared rack space. If they are truly a data center, then you rent collocation space. Negotiate your price point and bandwidth, sure. but it is a simple, clear concept.

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                                    coliver @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch said:

                                    @ntoxicator said:

                                    We have a local data center down the road as well.. I've been wanting to negotiate shared rack space for power + BW as alternative backup area or for future hosting needs. That is separate topic for another day. Sure I'll get flamed for that one lol.

                                    I'll flame it right here.. You don't negotiate for shared rack space. If they are truly a data center, then you rent collocation space. Negotiate your price point and bandwidth, sure. but it is a simple, clear concept.

                                    Right if they are an enterprise class datacenter and sell collocation space then that's that... hell if you have a decent ISP or two you could relocate all of your stuff there... especially since you are already doing terminal services.

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                                      ntoxicator
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                                      Yes - I'm aware of colo'ing servers.

                                      Yes - i can negotiate or buy half rack or full rack for power and bw

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                                        Aconboy @ntoxicator
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                                        @ntoxicator I will have Kevin Holmes and Ross Wimer reach out to you

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                                          ntoxicator @Aconboy
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                                          @Aconboy - awesome. thank you!

                                          cheers

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                                            Jason Banned @coliver
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                                            @coliver said:

                                            @JaredBusch said:

                                            @ntoxicator said:

                                            We have a local data center down the road as well.. I've been wanting to negotiate shared rack space for power + BW as alternative backup area or for future hosting needs. That is separate topic for another day. Sure I'll get flamed for that one lol.

                                            I'll flame it right here.. You don't negotiate for shared rack space. If they are truly a data center, then you rent collocation space. Negotiate your price point and bandwidth, sure. but it is a simple, clear concept.

                                            Right if they are an enterprise class datacenter and sell collocation space then that's that... hell if you have a decent ISP or two you could relocate all of your stuff there... especially since you are already doing terminal services.

                                            Yep. We can put some hardware in with our router at our ISP.

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