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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Will likely work, there might be bits that don't that you have not tested or tried. Or it might be unreliable. Hard to say. Might be fine and just not supported or tested.

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        IT-ADMIN @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch said:

        We already know the the place where @IT-ADMIN is does not actually care about licensing.

        finally after i show the advantage of virtualization to the management especially after that hardware issue i had few days ago, i finally convince them to buy 2 windows server licenses because i told them that for this project to be successful it is a must we have windows server licences and they agreed

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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          @IT-ADMIN said:

          @JaredBusch said:

          We already know the the place where @IT-ADMIN is does not actually care about licensing.

          finally after i show the advantage of virtualization to the management especially after that hardware issue i had few days ago, i finally convince them to buy 2 windows server licenses because i told them that for this project to be successful it is a must we have windows server licences and they agreed

          That's great! Major progress in what was actually a pretty short time period (as these things go.)

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Are you getting to virtualize now, too? Or just properly licensed Windows?

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              LAH3385 @scottalanmiller
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              @IT-ADMIN said:

              i want to know is there any difference btw the price of the license for physical machine or virtual machine, we have 2 physical server DELL Poweredge T310, i want to take one of them and host in it 2 VM, so now i'm wondering if the license for a VM is cheaper than the one for physical machine

              He mentioned in OP that he wants to go VM.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @LAH3385
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                @LAH3385 said:

                @IT-ADMIN said:

                i want to know is there any difference btw the price of the license for physical machine or virtual machine, we have 2 physical server DELL Poweredge T310, i want to take one of them and host in it 2 VM, so now i'm wondering if the license for a VM is cheaper than the one for physical machine

                He mentioned in OP that he wants to go VM.

                Oh good. LOTS of progress.

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                  IT-ADMIN
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                  when we had that hardware failure we experienced one day and a half of downtime, i explained to the management if we had virtualization in place we would not have this difficult time, instead we will export the VM to another hipervisor without any issue, and they were pleased with the idea 🙂

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    when we had that hardware failure we experienced one day and a half of downtime, i explained to the management if we had virtualization in place we would not have this difficult time, instead we will export the VM to another hipervisor without any issue, and they were pleased with the idea 🙂

                    Good job. Presenting a clear business need, not a technical one, is one of the most important IT skills. As you do this, you will both get better at presenting the business case and the management will get used to you advising them on business needs and trust your decision making more and more.

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                      IT-ADMIN
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                      yes and they are willing to offer a budget for this

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                        LAH3385 @IT-ADMIN
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                        @IT-ADMIN

                        LOL!!! You are in exact same boat as me! But it took me 2 whole months to persuade them to go VMs. Nice job on that!.
                        There's a lot of thread on how to go visualization and different between each hypervisor.

                        As SAM has mentioned before in other thread Do you homework before purchasing hardware! Don't make the same mistake I did.

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                        • IT-ADMINI
                          IT-ADMIN
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                          the budget will be for : 2 windows server license (2 VM) + 16 TB NAS

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            the budget will be for : 2 windows server license (2 VM) + 16 TB NAS

                            Two only because you want old versions?

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                              IT-ADMIN @LAH3385
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                              @LAH3385 said:

                              @IT-ADMIN

                              LOL!!! You are in exact same boat as me! But it took me 2 whole months to persuade them to go VMs. Nice job on that!.
                              There's a lot of thread on how to go visualization and different between each hypervisor.

                              As SAM has mentioned before in other thread Do you homework before purchasing hardware! Don't make the same mistake I did.

                              yes off course now that i have the budget i will learn what is the optimal way to go before doing anything

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                What is the NAS for?

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                                  IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  What is the NAS for?

                                  NAS for storing daily VM backup

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    What is the NAS for?

                                    NAS for storing daily VM backup

                                    Cool, sounds good then. 16TB is a LOT of backups!

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                                      IT-ADMIN
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                                      i learn something is that the best time to ask for a budget is the time of disaster,
                                      because while everything is runing fine, you will not take easily a budget from the management

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        Also a good time to talk to management about this problem - explain that now they understand the importance of good IT. They need to figure out how to remind themselves that IT matters once you get things fixed so that they don't forget and slip back into old patterns.

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                                        • IT-ADMINI
                                          IT-ADMIN
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                                          yeah sure,

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                                            IT-ADMIN
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                                            so the project will be like this :
                                            i have 2 dell poweredge T310, i will take one of them, then P2V, take the V in external storage, then format the server, install XenServer on it, host 2 VM in it (one VM for DC and File Server and the second VM for Application Server)
                                            the problem now is that i cannot buy anymore windows server 2008 R2 key,
                                            i need this key to activate the VM, because after i deploy the VM (that i P2V previously it will ask me for the key and me do not have the key)

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