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    • IT-ADMINI
      IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @IT-ADMIN said:

      actually i do not have any license, i'm planning to buy one, and i want to deploy it in 2 VM, what is the best option??

      Why would you buy old versions? Buy current. Don't invest in technical debt.

      compatibility issue as i said before, i have an application that is using SQL SERVER 2000, does 2012 R2 support SQL 2000??

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @IT-ADMIN
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        @IT-ADMIN said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @IT-ADMIN said:

        actually i do not have any license, i'm planning to buy one, and i want to deploy it in 2 VM, what is the best option??

        Why would you buy old versions? Buy current. Don't invest in technical debt.

        compatibility issue as i said before, i have an application that is using SQL SERVER 2000, does 2012 R2 support SQL 2000??

        We already know the the place where @IT-ADMIN is does not actually care about licensing.

        That said, to answer the question. If you actually purchase a standard Server 2012 R2 license via the Microsoft Volume Licensing program, you are given the right (called downgrade rights) to install Server 2008 R2 or Server 2012 instead of Server 2012 R2. Possibly Server 2008, but I have never checked that.

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          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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          @IT-ADMIN said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @IT-ADMIN said:

          actually i do not have any license, i'm planning to buy one, and i want to deploy it in 2 VM, what is the best option??

          Why would you buy old versions? Buy current. Don't invest in technical debt.

          compatibility issue as i said before, i have an application that is using SQL SERVER 2000, does 2012 R2 support SQL 2000??

          But you BUY current and deploy old. I'm not questioning why you are deploying old licenses, I'm questioning why you are buying old ones.

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            IT-ADMIN @LAH3385
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            @LAH3385 said:

            @IT-ADMIN said:

            SQL Server 2000

            This is not my realm but this should answer your questions
            https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa175274(v=sql.80).aspx

            Answer is "maybe" to "no". Some services that SQL server 2k utilize may not be available in 2008-2012.

            EDIT: wrong link. 😛

            thanks for the link, but i think it is not accurate because they didn't mention server 2008 as compatible OS whereas i'm using it

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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              @IT-ADMIN said:

              thanks for the link, but i think it is not accurate because they didn't mention server 2008 as compatible OS whereas i'm using it

              That you are using it does not imply that it is fully compatible or supported.

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                IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                @IT-ADMIN said:

                thanks for the link, but i think it is not accurate because they didn't mention server 2008 as compatible OS whereas i'm using it

                That you are using it does not imply that it is fully compatible or supported.

                i see your point

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Will likely work, there might be bits that don't that you have not tested or tried. Or it might be unreliable. Hard to say. Might be fine and just not supported or tested.

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                    IT-ADMIN @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said:

                    We already know the the place where @IT-ADMIN is does not actually care about licensing.

                    finally after i show the advantage of virtualization to the management especially after that hardware issue i had few days ago, i finally convince them to buy 2 windows server licenses because i told them that for this project to be successful it is a must we have windows server licences and they agreed

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      @JaredBusch said:

                      We already know the the place where @IT-ADMIN is does not actually care about licensing.

                      finally after i show the advantage of virtualization to the management especially after that hardware issue i had few days ago, i finally convince them to buy 2 windows server licenses because i told them that for this project to be successful it is a must we have windows server licences and they agreed

                      That's great! Major progress in what was actually a pretty short time period (as these things go.)

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Are you getting to virtualize now, too? Or just properly licensed Windows?

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                          LAH3385 @scottalanmiller
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                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          i want to know is there any difference btw the price of the license for physical machine or virtual machine, we have 2 physical server DELL Poweredge T310, i want to take one of them and host in it 2 VM, so now i'm wondering if the license for a VM is cheaper than the one for physical machine

                          He mentioned in OP that he wants to go VM.

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                            scottalanmiller @LAH3385
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                            @LAH3385 said:

                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            i want to know is there any difference btw the price of the license for physical machine or virtual machine, we have 2 physical server DELL Poweredge T310, i want to take one of them and host in it 2 VM, so now i'm wondering if the license for a VM is cheaper than the one for physical machine

                            He mentioned in OP that he wants to go VM.

                            Oh good. LOTS of progress.

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                              IT-ADMIN
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                              when we had that hardware failure we experienced one day and a half of downtime, i explained to the management if we had virtualization in place we would not have this difficult time, instead we will export the VM to another hipervisor without any issue, and they were pleased with the idea 🙂

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                                scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                when we had that hardware failure we experienced one day and a half of downtime, i explained to the management if we had virtualization in place we would not have this difficult time, instead we will export the VM to another hipervisor without any issue, and they were pleased with the idea 🙂

                                Good job. Presenting a clear business need, not a technical one, is one of the most important IT skills. As you do this, you will both get better at presenting the business case and the management will get used to you advising them on business needs and trust your decision making more and more.

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                                  IT-ADMIN
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                                  yes and they are willing to offer a budget for this

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                                    LAH3385 @IT-ADMIN
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                                    @IT-ADMIN

                                    LOL!!! You are in exact same boat as me! But it took me 2 whole months to persuade them to go VMs. Nice job on that!.
                                    There's a lot of thread on how to go visualization and different between each hypervisor.

                                    As SAM has mentioned before in other thread Do you homework before purchasing hardware! Don't make the same mistake I did.

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                                      IT-ADMIN
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                                      the budget will be for : 2 windows server license (2 VM) + 16 TB NAS

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                                        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        the budget will be for : 2 windows server license (2 VM) + 16 TB NAS

                                        Two only because you want old versions?

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                                          IT-ADMIN @LAH3385
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                                          @LAH3385 said:

                                          @IT-ADMIN

                                          LOL!!! You are in exact same boat as me! But it took me 2 whole months to persuade them to go VMs. Nice job on that!.
                                          There's a lot of thread on how to go visualization and different between each hypervisor.

                                          As SAM has mentioned before in other thread Do you homework before purchasing hardware! Don't make the same mistake I did.

                                          yes off course now that i have the budget i will learn what is the optimal way to go before doing anything

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            What is the NAS for?

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