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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      He is going to format. But RAID is RAID, the drives are encapsulated. It won't boot.

      I've been able to boot to one member of a RAID1 array.

      It was on an Intel RAID card in a desktop, though. Not a PERC controller.

      That's not even hardware RAID, that's FakeRAID. So not related to the situation at hand.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        That's not even hardware RAID, that's FakeRAID. So not related to the situation at hand.

        How is a card in the machine not real RAID?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
          last edited by

          @BRRABill said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          That's not even hardware RAID, that's FakeRAID. So not related to the situation at hand.

          How is a card in the machine not real RAID?

          FakeRAID is real RAID, it is fake that it is not actual hardware. And FakeRAID is fake because it pretends to be hardware when it isn't. It is specifically because they went through the effort to trick you that makes it FakeRAID.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @BRRABill said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            That's not even hardware RAID, that's FakeRAID. So not related to the situation at hand.

            How is a card in the machine not real RAID?

            FakeRAID is real RAID, it is fake that it is not actual hardware. And FakeRAID is fake because it pretends to be hardware when it isn't. It is specifically because they went through the effort to trick you that makes it FakeRAID.

            So .. the hardware card isn't doing real hardware RAID?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @BRRABill
              last edited by

              @BRRABill said:

              So .. the hardware card isn't doing real hardware RAID?

              Correct, it is FakeRAID. The card exists for no purpose but to trick you into paying for nothing. It's literally just really bad software RAID. Better to use the OS' software RAID which is faster, more reliable and more flexible and isn't sold to you on a con.

              Intel is famous for this and a leading reason why I would never be caught dead buying Intel servers or storage - they treat their customers like enemies actively scamming them.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                Intel is far from the only FakeRAID vendor, nearly every motherboard maker offers consumer FakeRAID. Intel is just the most aggressive with actually making fake cards and trying to sell into the business market.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill
                  last edited by

                  You have a writeup on this?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    @BRRABill said:

                    You have a writeup on this?

                    Already linked it.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @BRRABill said:

                      You have a writeup on this?

                      Already linked it.

                      Hidden-ish.

                      It was like a puzzle finding it. Fun, thanks! LOL.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill
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                        @scottalanmiller

                        But if the "software raid" of the card can detect drive failures and stuff ... isn't that better than the OS RAID, say, of Windows?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          @BRRABill said:

                          @scottalanmiller

                          But if the "software raid" of the card can detect drive failures and stuff ... isn't that better than the OS RAID, say, of Windows?

                          Why would that make it better? Just because it can do "as much" doesn't make it better. It has caveats, but what upsides?

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                          • IT-ADMINI
                            IT-ADMIN
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                            Ok thank you guys, i will turn my server into a normal PC, but this PC will be powerful

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                            so there is a difference btw normal PC and a server turned into PC

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
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                              Not really any difference.

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                              • H
                                hubtechagain
                                last edited by

                                meh, this is my laptop
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                                • IT-ADMINI
                                  IT-ADMIN
                                  last edited by

                                  loooooooooooooool
                                  what is the diffirence btw Xeon and i7 ??

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    loooooooooooooool
                                    what is the diffirence btw Xeon and i7 ??

                                    At the highest level, the i7 is the top of Intel's desktop line. The Core i line is the i3 at the entry level, i5 in the middle and i7 at the top end. The Xeon is the server processor line, so while related it is listed differently. Xeons have been around eons longer than the Core i naming convention. Xeons come with more cache, cores and features and can be used in multi-processor configurations. At the low end an i7 and a Xeon would be close, at the high end Xeons get pretty crazy.

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