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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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      @IT-ADMIN said:

      but a normal PC cannot be powered 24/24 hour, and this server had only 2 HD, (RAID 1 mirroring)

      I don't understand any of this statement. Why not and what's wrong with the mirroring?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said:

        @IT-ADMIN said:

        but a normal PC cannot be powered 24/24 hour, and this server had only 2 HD, (RAID 1 mirroring)

        It can't? why not? I never turn my computer off unless it has a problem.

        oh, your server only had 2 drives, in RAID 1. Then assuming your RAID didn't do anything funny, you should be able to plug one of them into the motherboard and boot from it. Thought Windows still probably won't boot correctly because of a driver issue, but you could get lucky.

        He is going to format. But RAID is RAID, the drives are encapsulated. It won't boot.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          He is going to format. But RAID is RAID, the drives are encapsulated. It won't boot.

          I've been able to boot to one member of a RAID1 array.

          It was on an Intel RAID card in a desktop, though. Not a PERC controller.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
            last edited by

            @BRRABill said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            He is going to format. But RAID is RAID, the drives are encapsulated. It won't boot.

            I've been able to boot to one member of a RAID1 array.

            It was on an Intel RAID card in a desktop, though. Not a PERC controller.

            That's not even hardware RAID, that's FakeRAID. So not related to the situation at hand.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said:

              That's not even hardware RAID, that's FakeRAID. So not related to the situation at hand.

              How is a card in the machine not real RAID?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                last edited by

                @BRRABill said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                That's not even hardware RAID, that's FakeRAID. So not related to the situation at hand.

                How is a card in the machine not real RAID?

                FakeRAID is real RAID, it is fake that it is not actual hardware. And FakeRAID is fake because it pretends to be hardware when it isn't. It is specifically because they went through the effort to trick you that makes it FakeRAID.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @BRRABill said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  That's not even hardware RAID, that's FakeRAID. So not related to the situation at hand.

                  How is a card in the machine not real RAID?

                  FakeRAID is real RAID, it is fake that it is not actual hardware. And FakeRAID is fake because it pretends to be hardware when it isn't. It is specifically because they went through the effort to trick you that makes it FakeRAID.

                  So .. the hardware card isn't doing real hardware RAID?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    @BRRABill said:

                    So .. the hardware card isn't doing real hardware RAID?

                    Correct, it is FakeRAID. The card exists for no purpose but to trick you into paying for nothing. It's literally just really bad software RAID. Better to use the OS' software RAID which is faster, more reliable and more flexible and isn't sold to you on a con.

                    Intel is famous for this and a leading reason why I would never be caught dead buying Intel servers or storage - they treat their customers like enemies actively scamming them.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      Intel is far from the only FakeRAID vendor, nearly every motherboard maker offers consumer FakeRAID. Intel is just the most aggressive with actually making fake cards and trying to sell into the business market.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        You have a writeup on this?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          @BRRABill said:

                          You have a writeup on this?

                          Already linked it.

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @BRRABill said:

                            You have a writeup on this?

                            Already linked it.

                            Hidden-ish.

                            It was like a puzzle finding it. Fun, thanks! LOL.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill
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                              @scottalanmiller

                              But if the "software raid" of the card can detect drive failures and stuff ... isn't that better than the OS RAID, say, of Windows?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                @BRRABill said:

                                @scottalanmiller

                                But if the "software raid" of the card can detect drive failures and stuff ... isn't that better than the OS RAID, say, of Windows?

                                Why would that make it better? Just because it can do "as much" doesn't make it better. It has caveats, but what upsides?

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                                • IT-ADMINI
                                  IT-ADMIN
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                                  Ok thank you guys, i will turn my server into a normal PC, but this PC will be powerful

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                                  so there is a difference btw normal PC and a server turned into PC

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    Not really any difference.

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                                    • H
                                      hubtechagain
                                      last edited by

                                      meh, this is my laptop
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                                      • IT-ADMINI
                                        IT-ADMIN
                                        last edited by

                                        loooooooooooooool
                                        what is the diffirence btw Xeon and i7 ??

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                          last edited by

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          loooooooooooooool
                                          what is the diffirence btw Xeon and i7 ??

                                          At the highest level, the i7 is the top of Intel's desktop line. The Core i line is the i3 at the entry level, i5 in the middle and i7 at the top end. The Xeon is the server processor line, so while related it is listed differently. Xeons have been around eons longer than the Core i naming convention. Xeons come with more cache, cores and features and can be used in multi-processor configurations. At the low end an i7 and a Xeon would be close, at the high end Xeons get pretty crazy.

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