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    • stacksofplatesS
      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      Great point. How does Alfresco handle shared file modification (two people editing at the same time?)

      Ok so one way is to download it for offline editing. It just locks the file until you upload it back. There's an option to edit with google docs, so I'll try that and see how it works.

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates @stacksofplates
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        Ok same thing with Google Docs, it just locks the file.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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          @johnhooks said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          Great point. How does Alfresco handle shared file modification (two people editing at the same time?)

          Ok so one way is to download it for offline editing. It just locks the file until you upload it back. There's an option to edit with google docs, so I'll try that and see how it works.

          That's weak 😞

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            @johnhooks said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            Great point. How does Alfresco handle shared file modification (two people editing at the same time?)

            Ok so one way is to download it for offline editing. It just locks the file until you upload it back. There's an option to edit with google docs, so I'll try that and see how it works.

            That's weak 😞

            This is on their cloud hosted, so I can't say what happens if you host it yourself. Does Sharepoint let multiple people edit at once?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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              @johnhooks said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @johnhooks said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              Great point. How does Alfresco handle shared file modification (two people editing at the same time?)

              Ok so one way is to download it for offline editing. It just locks the file until you upload it back. There's an option to edit with google docs, so I'll try that and see how it works.

              That's weak 😞

              This is on their cloud hosted, so I can't say what happens if you host it yourself. Does Sharepoint let multiple people edit at once?

              Yup. That's been a top feature for years. LibreOffice is getting that now too. Google Apps has always had that.

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                @johnhooks said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @johnhooks said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                Great point. How does Alfresco handle shared file modification (two people editing at the same time?)

                Ok so one way is to download it for offline editing. It just locks the file until you upload it back. There's an option to edit with google docs, so I'll try that and see how it works.

                That's weak 😞

                This is on their cloud hosted, so I can't say what happens if you host it yourself. Does Sharepoint let multiple people edit at once?

                Yup. That's been a top feature for years. LibreOffice is getting that now too. Google Apps has always had that.

                How does it keep track of versioning that way?

                I know Zoho can do that too, I'm kind of surprised Alfresco doesn't.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  It tracks the changes all over and the idea of saving has mostly gone away.

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    It tracks the changes all over and the idea of saving has mostly gone away.

                    What happens if two people edit at exactly the same time? How does it keep a version of each?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      The changes are tracked independently.

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates
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                        So Alfresco essentially only has the same functionality as checking out a document from sharepoint. I'm testing to see how Zoho does it just for fun.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Cool. I've not used Zoho for documents. That will be interesting.

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Cool. I've not used Zoho for documents. That will be interesting.

                            ya it's pretty nice. Essentially the same functionality as Google Docs, but I just noticed it does have versioning.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Nice.

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates
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                                eh that kind of sucks. It shows you the revisions, but you can't revert to them unless you actually check it out first.

                                I'm kind of surprised you can get that with Sharepoint. That has to be soo much metadata for each document. How does it determine when it does a revision? Does it literally save each character or is it after you pause from typing for a few seconds?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Yeah. It saves as you type. Art and I work on documents together and you watch each other type as you go.

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                                  • AmbarishrhA
                                    Ambarishrh
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                                    Box has 2 options; for documents like Word, you have an option to lock the doc, edit and unlock for others to work on. Next thing is box notes, which has collaborative editing, commenting, add more users to the note etc, and users can write at the same time on the document. I need to check on how it does versioning.,

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      Yeah. It saves as you type. Art and I work on documents together and you watch each other type as you go.

                                      Ya zoho does that too. But how do you revert to a version? How does it determine when it creates an actual version that you can go back to?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                        @johnhooks said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        Yeah. It saves as you type. Art and I work on documents together and you watch each other type as you go.

                                        Ya zoho does that too. But how do you revert to a version? How does it determine when it creates an actual version that you can go back to?

                                        There aren't versions. you just back up.

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @johnhooks said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          Yeah. It saves as you type. Art and I work on documents together and you watch each other type as you go.

                                          Ya zoho does that too. But how do you revert to a version? How does it determine when it creates an actual version that you can go back to?

                                          There aren't versions. you just back up.

                                          Oooh, ok. That's the difference then. Must be for a different use. With Alfresco, each time you upload a change, it's saved as a version (major or minor). Then you can restore to versions, see edits made by users with timestamps and some other info.

                                          I started using it because we would deliver parts and then need a signature. This way they can open the file through the alfresco app, have the person sign with their finger, and then save it. It keeps the original and the signed version with a timestamp so we know when it was delivered.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                            @johnhooks said:

                                            Oooh, ok. That's the difference then. Must be for a different use. With Alfresco, each time you upload a change, it's saved as a version (major or minor). Then you can restore to versions, see edits made by users with timestamps and some other info.

                                            Right, its even more granular. You can go back versions to individual document components.

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