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    Spec'ing a new workstation rig for my office

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      technobabble
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      W7 VM for data recovery.

      W7, Vista and XP VMs, also need XP to recover my Office Accounting 2007 data

      VM to setup and check out Mint.

      VM for a Virtual Lab for testing Server 2012r2 (Can you run VMs inside VMs with their own Vnetwork?)

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        scottalanmiller @technobabble
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        @technobabble said:

        VM for a Virtual Lab for testing Server 2012r2 (Can you run VMs inside VMs with their own Vnetwork?)

        yes but you really start hurting performance.

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          technobabble @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller Noted!

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            A Former User
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            sounds like you should just get a workstation (vanilla) and a esxi host.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch
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              I recently dropped a SSD in my desktop and it now flies right along. I would go with this:

              @Hubtech said:

              sounds like you should just get a workstation (vanilla) and a esxi host.

              I am still trying to get some gear for my office to have for testing. but no money for it and no used gear has fell in my lap yet.

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                A Former User @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said:

                I recently dropped a SSD in my desktop and it now flies right along. I would go with this:

                @Hubtech said:

                sounds like you should just get a workstation (vanilla) and a esxi host.

                I am still trying to get some gear for my office to have for testing. but no money for it and no used gear has fell in my lap yet.

                Dude, I picked up some g5 dual quad xeon's for under 200 each. ebay bay bay

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @A Former User
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                  @Hubtech said:

                  @JaredBusch said:

                  I recently dropped a SSD in my desktop and it now flies right along. I would go with this:

                  @Hubtech said:

                  sounds like you should just get a workstation (vanilla) and a esxi host.

                  I am still trying to get some gear for my office to have for testing. but no money for it and no used gear has fell in my lap yet.

                  Dude, I picked up some g5 dual quad xeon's for under 200 each. ebay bay bay
                  are you talking HP server?

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                  • alexntgA
                    alexntg
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                    If you're considering running multiple VMs on your computer rather than running them on a server, you're going to need more IOPS. Consider using an SSD for a system drive and perhaps some tiered storage, such as Windows Storage Spaces, for your VM and data volume.

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                      technobabble
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                      Thanks @alexntg

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Use SSD no matter what. Best investment for a desktop.

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                          technobabble @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          Use SSD no matter what. Best investment for a desktop.

                          The last SSD I used died a horrible death 2 months ago. It was less than a year old. Many times a day it would show 100% disk usage and my PC would come to a crawl. I am guessing that I just had a lemon.

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                            scottalanmiller
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                            We've been essentially all in SSD for years now. Haven't lost one yet. No issues at all. They've been amazing.

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                              alexntg @technobabble
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                              @technobabble said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              Use SSD no matter what. Best investment for a desktop.

                              The last SSD I used died a horrible death 2 months ago. It was less than a year old. Many times a day it would show 100% disk usage and my PC would come to a crawl. I am guessing that I just had a lemon.

                              In that case, perhaps SSD system drive in RAID1

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                SSD are okay in RAID 5 too.

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                                  alexntg @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  SSD are okay in RAID 5 too.

                                  RAID5 SSDs seem a bit overkill for a system drive.

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                                    technobabble
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                                    @alexntg
                                    I was also looking to make my "desktop" a VM as well running on Hyper-V. I wanted to be able to test out backing up VM's and other cool stuff I read on ML.

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                                    • alexntgA
                                      alexntg
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                                      In that case, someone's prior suggestion of a basic workstation and an ESXi host would be the way to go. Don't use Hyper-V.

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                                        scottalanmiller @alexntg
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                                        @alexntg said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        SSD are okay in RAID 5 too.

                                        RAID5 SSDs seem a bit overkill for a system drive.

                                        So does RAID 1 🙂

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @alexntg
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                                          @alexntg said:

                                          In that case, someone's prior suggestion of a basic workstation and an ESXi host would be the way to go. Don't use Hyper-V.

                                          HyperV has an option for a VM with direct access with a local console.

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                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @alexntg said:

                                            In that case, someone's prior suggestion of a basic workstation and an ESXi host would be the way to go. Don't use Hyper-V.

                                            HyperV has an option for a VM with direct access with a local console.

                                            That makes it a much better solution for a small home lab than ESXi

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