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    Picking a First Language to Learn to Program

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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      @Carnival-Boy said:

      How many people choose a language to start?

      Enough that I get asked about once a fortnight.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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        @Carnival-Boy said:

        Are things are different for kids today?

        Very different. Kids don't get taught to program anymore. I know of exactly zero in the US that get taught that. When I was a kid, everyone was taught to program. Now, no one is. My niece is even in the advanced STEM program at a huge high school with over 10K students, is near the top of her class, has expressed an interest in programming, has been on the robotics team for years and... maybe someday will get a cursory introduction to C#, maybe. So far, there is no hint of that coming.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          I learned BASIC on DOS 1 because it was what we had access to. But by the time I was twelve or thirteen I was learning C because I chose it. That was in the 1980s. My very first language I had little choice, but that did not last long. I did learn Fortran because it was what we had to use at college, along with C which I already knew, but after BASIC and Fortran, all of my languages were by choice.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch
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            Today, people are computer users. When we were kids in the 80's the only way to use a computer for most things was to know at least a bit of basic programming.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Kids today don't learn about computers, they learn to use applications.

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              • C
                Carnival Boy
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                That's poor. My lad will be getting a free Raspberry-Pi like computer when he starts secondary school next year. Every kid in the country gets one when they're 11.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                  @Carnival-Boy said:

                  That's poor. My lad will be getting a free Raspberry-Pi like computer when he starts secondary school next year. Every kid in the country gets one when they're 11.

                  The US doesn't make anything cool like that to hand out 😉

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch
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                    I personally hate Python because of whitespace indentation being the ONLY means of structuring logic.
                    Yes all good code is typically indented and such for readability even when it does not have to be. But making this the only way to have a loop or if statement work just kills me.

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                    • AVI-NetworkGuyA
                      AVI-NetworkGuy @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      • Python is heavily used in both software engineering as well as IT so it is very flexible as a career building language.

                      #truth - This was a big deal for Google when I was going for a Windows Sys Admin position with them.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Every major coding interview I've done in the past decade has either requested or accepted Python for code.

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