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    1001 Reasons Not to Be an MSP

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    • stacksofplatesS
      stacksofplates @Reid Cooper
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      @Reid-Cooper said:

      The overhead of tech management is often unseen, unappreciated and miscalculated.

      The cost of a tech working somewhere is much higher than the tech's salary. People often forget this.

      I think a lot of people don't realize this for every position. They don't realize that on top of what you make, the employer pays about 60-64% extra in taxes, insurance, etc.

      Going along with a thread we had a while back, that's why $15 an hour for fast food employees won't work because it's not just $15 an hour, it's more like $25.

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      • brianlittlejohnB
        brianlittlejohn
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        Slow Paying Customers! When I consulted, I had a client who owed me a trivial amount ($400ish), They payed it over 4 months and 3 checks. After that I know longer did work for them anymore...

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        • MattSpellerM
          MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          The skills that make someone a good tech and the skills that make someone a good salesperson rarely overlap. For those where they do, they generally make a fortune as a pre-sales engineer for a massive company (MS, Oracle, EMC, etc.) where they can sell "so much stuff" that an MSP can't possible earn that much doing MSP stuff.

          Well apparently I have found my next career path

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            hubtechagain
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            @MattSpeller yeah, i could probly swing it as well.

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            • MattSpellerM
              MattSpeller @hubtechagain
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              @hubtechagain I'm still fighting to make as much in IT as I did selling used luxury cars - it's sad.

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                dafyre @brianlittlejohn
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                @brianlittlejohn said:

                Slow Paying Customers! When I consulted, I had a client who owed me a trivial amount ($400ish), They payed it over 4 months and 3 checks. After that I know longer did work for them anymore...

                I agree this could be a problem. Especially if you are the MSP. However, before a project of any scale is started, I would ensure that payment details are agreed up on so there are no surprises.

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                  hubtechagain
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                  I've never really had a problem collecting from clients. I run on net 30, and my first meeting with a client (well the meeting where they choose me as their ITSP we go over mutual expectations. communication, payments, etc.

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                  • RojoLocoR
                    RojoLoco @MattSpeller
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                    @MattSpeller said:

                    @hubtechagain I'm still fighting to make as much in IT as I did selling used luxury cars - it's sad.

                    I don't think it's sad that you no longer do the devil's work... sorry about the money, but your soul is far better off doing IT.

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                    • MattSpellerM
                      MattSpeller @RojoLoco
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                      @RojoLoco More true words were never spoken.

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                      • brianlittlejohnB
                        brianlittlejohn @dafyre
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                        @dafyre said:

                        @brianlittlejohn said:

                        Slow Paying Customers! When I consulted, I had a client who owed me a trivial amount ($400ish), They payed it over 4 months and 3 checks. After that I know longer did work for them anymore...

                        I agree this could be a problem. Especially if you are the MSP. However, before a project of any scale is started, I would ensure that payment details are agreed up on so there are no surprises.

                        If i were to do consulting again, I would do things alot differently that I did the first time. I've learned alot since I was 19.

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                        • RojoLocoR
                          RojoLoco @MattSpeller
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                          @MattSpeller said:

                          @RojoLoco More true words were never spoken.

                          Hey, I'm a recovering retail sales dick myself... it feels better to earn my living at this point.

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller @RojoLoco
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                            @RojoLoco Every now and again I miss the wild west cowboy shit I used to get away with. Then I remember the liquor and ... other worse stuff.

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                              RojoLoco @MattSpeller
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                              @MattSpeller said:

                              @RojoLoco Every now and again I miss the wild west cowboy shit I used to get away with. Then I remember the liquor and ... other worse stuff.

                              No doubt.... {incriminating comments removed}

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