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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by

      So basically, using SC for this, which does seem like a better option.

      But it means that each VM must be well documented, which I suspect will be difficult for "people" to maintain.

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      • StrongBadS
        StrongBad @DustinB3403
        last edited by

        @DustinB3403 said:

        So basically, using SC for this, which does seem like a better option.

        But it means that each VM must be well documented, which I suspect will be difficult for "people" to maintain.

        Documentation would be quite important. Same as if you had to replace failed hardware. Although the hardware does not have to be identical.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
          last edited by

          Documentation is really the key is what it comes down too.

          Not a hard answer. Just something that needs to be well maintained.

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          • StrongBadS
            StrongBad
            last edited by

            I have no looked into this before, does XenServer store the actual configuration of the clients in the /var/xapi database folder on the Dom0?

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @StrongBad
              last edited by

              @StrongBad haha... documentation... all of that which I'm trying to sort here, and actually get written at work....

              Yeah... documentation.... it's gotta start somewhere. keeping it current is the difficult part for most people.

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              • StrongBadS
                StrongBad
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                Info here on how to backup and restore the Dom0 metadata.

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                • StrongBadS
                  StrongBad
                  last edited by

                  Some good info here too...

                  http://tecadmin.net/backup-vms-metadata-in-citrix-xenserver/

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
                    last edited by DustinB3403

                    I have one more question.

                    What if we wanted to "expand a file server to a larger vDISk to the file share partition.

                    Or would I expand the drive from Xencenter, reboot, and expand?

                    Edit: I guess what I mean, which way is the preferred method to expanding a partition.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      What OS and filesystem are you expanding?

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        Server 2008 is our current file server so I'm just curious what the process would be.

                        In XenCenter, I can simply go to the VM vDISK (with the vm off) and expand the drive. Boot up and then go into disk manager and expand.

                        Would it be the same process using SC. I'm assuming it would have to be.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
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                          Since the hardware is stored at the hypervisor level, right? 🙂

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said:

                            Would it be the same process using SC. I'm assuming it would have to be.

                            I am unclear what you are trying to do. How does SC come into the picture?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said:

                              Since the hardware is stored at the hypervisor level, right? 🙂

                              The hypervisor presents the hardware to the OS.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said:

                                In XenCenter, I can simply go to the VM vDISK (with the vm off) and expand the drive. Boot up and then go into disk manager and expand.

                                I feel like you just answered your own question.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  I did, I was thinking it through as I typed....

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                                  • StevenS
                                    Steven @DustinB3403
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                                    @DustinB3403, just some quick responses:

                                    Is there any documentation that I can review regarding SC and XS working together?
                                    Just looked for documentation beyond the normal user guide and support information. Didn't see any, so I'm asking the content team. Did you have something specific regarding "working together"? Because to the client VM the hypervisor is transparent. Are you looking for product integration?

                                    Does every version of SC, support VM backup and restore?
                                    Yes, absolutely. Again, the process isn't tied to the hypervisor host. Which means it's as easy to restore to XS as it is to restore to VMware or Hyper-V.

                                    Are there data limits to SC?
                                    There are no known data limits. Our engineers (in the spirit of good fun) have toyed with some theoretical limits but I doubt we'll ever see those IRL.

                                    Is there anyway to see a demo on StorageCraft restoring a XenServer VM?
                                    I can get you in touch with an SE to give you a personal demo. Just send me a PM and I'll get the ball rolling. (I'd offer to do it myself but I just rebuilt my lab as Hyper-V to test some of our new tech and I'm locked into that platform for at least a month--sorry.)

                                    Cheers!

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                                    • StevenS
                                      Steven @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      They have an online video of this. Under two minutes. The video is useful but I don't know about that Steven guy doing the demo...

                                      Youtube Video

                                      Yeah... they really need to get someone new! 😉

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @scottalanmiller earlier was mentioning differentials vs incrementals.

                                        I wonder if the terms still apply, or if the industry at large has dropped the two terms and simply moved to the use of incrementals.

                                        Pretty big deal... if you delete a differential nothing bad happens. Delete an incremental and you have a disaster...

                                        http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1276968-backing-up-6-pc-s-to-a-nas-using-acronis?page=1#entry-5202270

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